Gurman’s “Apple Design is in shambles” article

Me, I think that they should be making the AppleTV even more so the home hub - virtually an HTPC (along with giving it a stellar webcam to sit on top of your TV set) - one that has motion detection and stereo mics to follow the speaker around the room. Give it Safari and let us connect our wireless keyboards and pointing devices to it.

And the camera bump is ugly. Hideous. You know, if they weren't so afraid of making the phone thicker, they could fit all of the "pro" features into a mini form factor like many of us have been clamouring for, for years. (and, no, we still didn't get what we wanted with the 12 and 13 mini's).

I want the pro camera in a mini form factor.

I do NOT want an iPhad coffee-table-sized phone!!! I like throwing my phone in my front pocket without having a massive rectangular bulge that screams "here's my phone!" Ugh!!

And more ports for the Mac mini - which doesn't need to be smaller. :p And make it in black.

/end rant :D
 
Reading the article you'd think that Apple had a catastrophic design failure after another for the last few years. But the current designs are some of the most refined of the last decades, and other than Liquid Glass, there hasn't even been any controversy about them.

And I mean, IIRC was still there for the butterfly keyboard and TouchBar MacBook Pros...
 
Folding phone - ugh, no.
If it had 3 lenses and faceid, I’d consider it. The form factor (think of two 3x5 cards with a hinge between them, total thickness equivalent to an iphone pro) is interesting to me.

But I’d be interested in an iphone pro with that aspect ratio instead of tall and skinny - i guess I’m weird that way.
 
I’d be interested in an iphone pro with that aspect ratio instead of tall and skinny - i guess I’m weird that way.

The only way a folding phone could make sense is if it had an exterior screen that would allow you to use it while folded as well. Given that my car can use my phone while it transit, that might not even be a total deal-breaker. I know what makes sense for me, but what makes sense for everyone else probably varies widely from my use cases.
 
The only way a folding phone could make sense is if it had an exterior screen that would allow you to use it while folded as well. Given that my car can use my phone while it transit, that might not even be a total deal-breaker. I know what makes sense for me, but what makes sense for everyone else probably varies widely from my use cases.
the apple folding phone will have a screen on the outside.
 
the apple folding phone will have a screen on the outside.
I won't buy one, partly because of the expected astronomical price and partly because I'd be concerned about getting the first iteration of a foldable screen. But I can see why a relatively pocketable device that opens to a larger screen might be attractive.
 
The thing I envisioned was a flexible screen (which should be easy with OLED) that allows the phone to be slid into a larger thing (rolling out over a roller), rather than unfolded. It would be what no one else is doing, and I think it could be done.
 
eh, I'm happy with the hardware, and the software whilst generating crying is better than things like snow leopard. I know I know... go try actually using macOS from the early 2000s. really.
 
go try actually using macOS from the early 2000s

I used it back then. Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard, I used them all. Constantly. They did what needed to be done at the time, and, for me, made the machine feel accessible. Granted, I had PathFinder embedded into the Finder slot, so that helped a lot. Early MacOSX was better than classic MacOS for almost all uses.

I do like the ARMv9 hardware and the no more CRTs, but old OSX was quite usable.
 
A lot of us where playing around with different Linux distro's back in the day, so, yes OSX and then MacOS has ALWAYS been SO much more polished. :).
 
eh, I'm happy with the hardware, and the software whilst generating crying is better than things like snow leopard. I know I know... go try actually using macOS from the early 2000s. really.
Disagree. I'm sure it's true for some apps, but... try using Mail.app from OS 10.6-10.8, versus now. Today's Mail.app has a list of bugs that takes multiple pages. Just the text editing engine alone is an appalling embarrassment. On the OS side, they screwed up NFS several different ways, and totally broke the System Preferences front-end for Wifi IP interfaces with multiple networks configured on them. Years have gone by, and these issues haven't been fixed.

I admit I haven't tried MacOS 27 yet. I will be shocked and delighted if they fix any of those bugs.

I'm not saying current MacOS is worse (I would probably argue that the design is, but that's only a part of the UI/UX). But I'm don't think it's better either.
 
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Disagree. I'm sure it's true for some apps, but... try using Mail.app from OS 10.6-10.8, versus now. Today's Mail.app has a list of bugs that takes multiple pages. Just the text editing engine alone is an appalling embarrassment. On the OS side, they screwed up NFS several different ways, and totally broke the System Preferences front-end for Wifi IP interfaces with multiple networks configured on them. Years have gone by, and these issues haven't been fixed.

I admit I haven't tried MacOS 27 yet. I will be shocked and delighted if they fix any of those bugs.

I'm not saying current MacOS is worse (I would probably argue that the design is, but that's only a part of the UI/UX). But I'm don't think it's better either.
Mail has always had some bugs, on the flip-side the new features for classification and unsubscribe, etc. are great.
 
I used it back then. Puma, Jaguar, Panther, Tiger, Leopard, I used them all. Constantly. They did what needed to be done at the time, and, for me, made the machine feel accessible. Granted, I had PathFinder embedded into the Finder slot, so that helped a lot. Early MacOSX was better than classic MacOS for almost all uses.

I do like the ARMv9 hardware and the no more CRTs, but old OSX was quite usable.
Usable, but the UI lacks basic things like re-size from any corner, etc.
 
Mail has always had some bugs, on the flip-side the new features for classification and unsubscribe, etc. are great.
I'm talking about at least a couple dozen bugs that wormed their way in progressively over the years between 10.8 and 14.0. I can no longer recall if I've spotted even newer bugs since then. It's just too depressing.

I mean... it can't even do cut and paste correctly (try some text with leading spaces and tabs). Talk about basic.

To be fair, they actually tried to fix one of the bugs in 15.0. They didn't manage to entirely fix it, but I was pathetically grateful for that tiny improvement.

Usable, but the UI lacks basic things like re-size from any corner, etc.
That's what you consider basic? To me that's barely more than fluff. I mean, it's nice, I wouldn't take it away, but it matters to me maybe a few times a year. Of course I started using GUIs with the Lisa OS and then Mac System 1.0 (maybe it actually 0.98 or 1.04 or something like that) so I'm used to that. But there was an advantage to perfect clarity in UI targets, which is now lost. That was NOT a win for anybody.
 
That's what you consider basic? To me that's barely more than fluff. I mean, it's nice, I wouldn't take it away, but it matters to me maybe a few times a year. Of course I started using GUIs with the Lisa OS and then Mac System 1.0 (maybe it actually 0.98 or 1.04 or something like that) so I'm used to that. But there was an advantage to perfect clarity in UI targets, which is now lost. That was NOT a win for anybody.

Yeah its basic stuff and despite being a massive fanboy I'm not going to make excuses for Apple's deficiencies in prior platforms.

I've also been using GUIs since the 1980s (Amiga, Windows, most of the different flavours of GUI under Linux, etc.) - and yes, current iterations of MacOS have their quirks and annoyances but on balance, across all the features I feel that modern macOS (prior to Tahoe) is much improved, and Tahoe is still "fine" but slightly annoying.

I'd still rather work on Tahoe than previous though, due to the other things it brings to the table like email triage, send calls to voice mail on the Mac whilst seeing voice to text, etc.

I didn't start with macOS until 10.5, but in that case I used macOS *despite* a bunch of GUI annoyances because of the other OS features, the GUI for me was always pretty weak prior to say, 10.8. And TO THIS DAY - not being able to have the dock displayed on every monitor in a multi display environment is a PITA.
 
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