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If this is true, infuriating and incomprehensible. Obviously we aren’t party to all the information administration officials have access to nor the basis of their discussions, but from the outside it’s hard to justify:

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If this is true, infuriating and incomprehensible. Obviously we aren’t party to all the information administration officials have access to nor the basis of their discussions, but from the outside it’s hard to justify:

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There are reasons and more to the story.

 

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There are reasons and more to the story.

I’ve seen a lot of people dismiss those arguments. Somebody on Twitter crunched the numbers and we have the capacity to give the Ukrainians a couple hundred ATACMS regardless of PrSM which itself wont really be available in any significant quantities anytime soon. Now I can’t speak to that personally but certainly no one buys the escalation argument anymore, not with StormShadow and ScalpER in theater.

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The below is an extremely long thread detailing not only the use of ATACMS but its availability:


I’ve not see any one take issue with the analysis presented. But I’m hardly an expert on munitions and their production.

Almost everyone I read on this subject appears to be flabbergasted by the decision making or lack thereof. Some I think are reading too … darkly into it, but even I am at loss as to what the thinking is if the above is accurate.
 

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I’ve seen a lot of people dismiss those arguments. Somebody on Twitter crunched the numbers and we have the capacity to give the Ukrainians a couple hundred ATACMS regardless of PrSM which itself wont really be available in any significant quantities anytime soon. Now I can’t speak to that personally but certainly no one buys the escalation argument anymore, not with StormShadow and ScalpER in theater.

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The below is an extremely long thread detailing not only the use of ATACMS but its availability:


I’ve not see any one take issue with the analysis presented. But I’m hardly an expert on munitions and their production.

Almost everyone I read on this subject appears to be flabbergasted by the decision making or lack thereof. Some I think are reading too … darkly into it, but even I am at loss as to what the thinking is if the above is accurate.

That's just it. We're not in a position to accurately assess/evaluate arguments made by social media "experts." If they have/had expertise in that field and demonstrable inside knowledge, well, maybe.

It *feels* (for what it's worth) legit to me at the moment. So I'm leaning that way.
 

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That's just it. We're not in a position to accurately assess/evaluate arguments made by social media "experts." If they have/had expertise in that field and demonstrable inside knowledge, well, maybe.

It *feels* (for what it's worth) legit to me at the moment. So I'm leaning that way.
Multiple journalists who cover defense and former government types seem to believe both the guys I quoted are very reliable in terms of their expertise on this subject. That doesn’t make them necessarily right of course. I get that. But it is frustrating because the administration isn’t really saying why officially - it’s all back channel to reporters with different anonymous sources saying sometimes subtly sometimes wildly different things.
 

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Multiple journalists who cover defense and former government types seem to believe both the guys I quoted are very reliable in terms of their expertise on this subject. That doesn’t make them necessarily right of course. I get that. But it is frustrating because the administration isn’t really saying why officially - it’s all back channel to reporters with different anonymous sources saying sometimes subtly sometimes wildly different things.

Yeah... and I trust the people who write for The Warzone as they seem to be well-sourced and what they write is eventually corroborated by other sources, and, also because what they've written about in the past that happens to overlap with my career in aerospace, feels legit.
 
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