Siri allegedly becoming a chatbot

A lot of this sounds reminiscent of the original Apple Intelligence keynote, where Siri was going to be able to use your data for context and be able to act more like an LLM-driven agent. So this isn't too surprising.

That said, if you tell it "Remind me to wash the car this weekend" and it doesn't create a task in reminders, or only does it half the time, I'm going to lose my mind. I rely on Siri for hands-free automation of stuff in the car while driving to "empty" these sort of thoughts, as well as picking an album in my music library. But a co-worker working with getting LLMs to interact with tools pointed out that it was a right nightmare sometimes when the LLM would just hallucinate a result rather than calling the tool some non-trivial percentage of the time. Even now, I'm watching tooling being built to test LLMs and ensure they call tools for certain things.
 
Satirical parody of the article. It was not meant to be against anyone here. Just thought someone might get humor and knowledge out of it.

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Mark Gurman, in the ultimate show of his incompetence, ignorance, arrogance, and illiteracy, published an "article" where he inverts Apple's official announcements around Siri as rumor, and paints speculative information in his article as fact, in an attempt to control a false narrative that Apple will chase the chatbot market.

This comes after speculation across social media that Bloomberg iced the reporter after incorrectly "reporting" that Johny Srouji was leaving, prompting a swift rebuke of the much-maligned Bloomberg reporter by Apple and Johny Srouji himself.

Despite the fact that Apple has already announced that Siri will gain new abilities via adopting a transformer model (a custom one co-developed by Google and Apple, announced by both), such as on-screen awareness, multi-app actions, conversational fluency and awareness, voice and written modes, adopting Apple's App Intents technology, and the ability to swap out the underlying transformer model that powers Siri and Apple Intelligence; Gurman, in an attempt to save face after his repeated failure to disseminate anything other than the most obvious speculation, painted and characterized the previously mentioned and announced features as unannounced and a "chatbot."

This comes after Greg Joswiak, Apple's Senior Vice President of Worldwide Marketing, directly addressed that Apple would not pursue a chatbot experience, which necessitates a separate app experience that requires users to jump in and out of, and instead would upgrade Siri with the previously mentioned features.

To falsely suggest that he has a clue, Gurman wrote the supposed code name for these features, despite the fact that these features were reported under a different code name, ironically by the reporter himself.

Gurman continued his incompetence and attempt at journalism to suggest the announcement of Apple's collaboration with Google was completely false, and Apple would possibly not run the eventual transformer models for Siri on Apple's Private Cloud Compute, even though Apple directly said they would. Despite the fact that Apple itself has confirmed the company only uses Google's TPU hardware to train transformer models, Gurman falsely asserts that Apple will instead abandon its industry-first private cloud technology for reasons completely unstated

Gurman's desire to manipulate the narrative around Siri falls into the characteristic tendencies of the reporter. Gurman further attempts to spin Apple's already-announced features for Siri and Apple Intelligence as mere conjecture and delayed, so that he can continue to suggest that chatbot companies are "stealing" all of Apple's talent, despite the reporter also stating that said talent led Apple to fall behind in transformer models, according to the reporter's speculation.

Gurman's continued insistence on inserting columnist opinion and speculation into very little reported fact in order to assert narratives that are completely false are a continued pattern for the beleaguered Bloomberg reporter.

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The above was satire based on how he writes. But my general criticism of his work stands.

This article basically confirms Gurman doesn't have "information" beyond bullshit Apple's competitors give him, and his own speculation and opinion, mixed in with the very little he gets, which is basically often incorrect. His language is telling, and he constantly tries to assign stuff code names in an effort to lend credibility to everything he says, even if literally contradicting it in later articles. Apple is weeding people out. He is disgusting and fucking horrible.

Now fuck off Gurman.

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Also unsurprisingly John Gruber just accepts whatever he says after directly criticizing him as a "colossal fuck up." He doesn't even bother to realize that everything in said "article" is literally just a direct regurgitation of Apple's announcements and a contradiction of what Apple officially said, as I wrote above. Gruber is increasingly unreliable and erratic and inconsistent. No idea what the hell is going on with him, but I'm finished with his posting. No longer any need to drive traffic to his $11,000 / week earning blog for less insightful shit than anyone else can come up with, plus hysterical rants where he pretends everything he likes is amazing and everything he doesn't is shit. What a waste of electricity both of their blogs are. Fuck off.
Dude. While I agree with some of your WoT, pretty sure no one here is a Gurman fanboy, so maybe take it down a notch. This forum is blessedly free from fanatics, which is why it’s a nice place to nerd out. We’ve all got frustrations but let’s put some effort recognizing that we’re all reading the same book.
 
Dude. While I agree with some of your WoT, pretty sure no one here is a Gurman fanboy, so maybe take it down a notch. This forum is blessedly free from fanatics, which is why it’s a nice place to nerd out. We’ve all got frustrations
Dude, how do you not understand I was literally just commenting about Gurman. It's just that. It wasn't a reference to anyone here.

It was a satirical parody of his work, nothing else lol.

but let’s put some effort recognizing that we’re all reading the same book.

Yeah, that's why I thought you might appreciate the comment...?
 
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Mark Gurman tries to backpedal and pretend he didn't completely miss what Apple said lol.

Now in his article (it wasn't there):
Craig Federighi, senior vice president of software engineering, said in a June interview with Tom’s Guide that releasing a chatbot was never the company’s goal. Apple didn’t want to send users “off into some chat experience in order to get things done,” he said.

I don't know what his original article said, and if anything else changed. Thanks Bloomberg for blocking archiving!

His entire "article" has one only one statement attributed to a source:
The chatbot — code-named Campos — will be embedded deeply into the iPhone, iPad and Mac operating systems and replace the current Siri interface, according to people familiar with the plan

This makes sense, given the fact that literally none of the article other than the code name is new, all "unannounced" features are literally what Apple said and showed at WWDC, and again ironically contradicts other code names he reported for this EXACT thing. He just paints it as a chatbot, even though this is BS

He later directly contradicts Apple's official statement by saying that Apple is "discussing" running the "higher end" transformer model (which he also references as a code name) on Google's TPU hardware, not PCC.

TPU is a custom ASIC designed for training models and inference for models. Given he has no "sources familiar with the plan" (again, assuming that Bloomberg even cares about journalistic standards), he's likely using this from Google's PR:
Google Cloud TPUs are custom-designed AI accelerators, which are optimized for training and inference of AI models. They are ideal for a variety of use cases, such as agents, code generation, media content generation, synthetic speech, vision services, recommendation engines, and personalization models, among others. TPUs power Gemini, and all of Google’s AI powered applications like Search, Photos, and Maps, all serving over 1 Billion users.

To say this:
In a potential policy shift for Apple, the two partners are discussing hosting the chatbot directly on Google servers running powerful chips known as TPUs, or tensor processing units. The more immediate Siri update, in contrast, will operate on Apple’s own Private Cloud Compute servers, which rely on high-end Mac chips for processing.

Simply because Apple said this:
Apple and Google have entered into a multi-year collaboration under which the next generation of Apple Foundation Models will be based on Google's Gemini models and cloud technology. These models will help power future Apple Intelligence features, including a more personalized Siri coming this year.
this is Even though it's a direct contradiction of Apple and causes drama. It's very deceptively worded.

It's not unnoticed that people were straight up panicking (and not without good reason) that Apple would run Siri on Google hardware and not Apple PCC. His "report" comes after questions of him being iced, according to social media; and after Apple and Google already announced the partnership and that Apple will use TPU hardware.

It has already been stated directly by Apple that they use Google TPUs to train their Foundation Models, and reported previously that Apple's supposed "payment" to Google is purchase of cloud computing credits, which again suggests the status quo arrangement, because that reporting also said Apple plans to customize and build on top of the model, which again would require TPU or other servers

Meaning he noted this and directly chose to include this BS "information" in his piece simply to cause drama. Notice dedicated articles spawned to directly discuss this and only this info.
 
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Also the extreme irony of people on social media praising this as "the smart move," when in fact John Giannandrea was the one internally, supposedly, that advocated from the beginning for Apple to partner with Google on transformer model development. But that doesn't fit with the slander that Giananndrea doesn't have any idea at all what's he's doing, so people just pretend that was never reported lol
 
Satirical parody of the article. It was not meant to be against anyone here. Just thought someone might get humor and knowledge out of it.

Thanks
I enjoyed it.

Also, can I be forgiven for sometimes thinking that Gurman, Gruber and Leo Laporte are actually the same person?
 
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I enjoyed it.

Also, can I be forgiven for sometimes thinking that Gurman, Gruber and Leo Laporte are actually the same person?
Gruber would be highly insulted by that.

I used to follow Gurman on twitter, and got blocked for explaining why some claim of his was technically impossible. Thin skin.
 
Gruber would be highly insulted by that.

I used to follow Gurman on twitter, and got blocked for explaining why some claim of his was technically impossible. Thin skin.
Weren't Gruber and Laporte close buddies at one point?
 
Gruber would be highly insulted by that.

I used to follow Gurman on twitter, and got blocked for explaining why some claim of his was technically impossible. Thin skin.
Donald Trump blocked me on Twitter before his first term, to this day I consider it the best thing to ever happen to me online.
 
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