17 Year-old Blue Lives Matter Activist with AR 15 Charged With Murder After Two Killed at Protest

Not a topic I was considering discussing. But does bring up the matter of being able to see this judge in action, makes one wonder what we don't see.

Seriously after the judge's performance with the prosecution, if they left the ringer on their phone on and it played "Don't stop" by Fleetwood Mac, you don't think that judge wouldn't have lost it again?

The judge makes a case for why there should be cameras. Again though, cameras isn't a topic I want to go on about. The judge though... 🙄
Just to touch on cell phones, yeah I couldn’t stand it. I understand if someone forgets once but by God. That is just rude.
 
In reading that, the initial paragraph seems clear. But the 2nd paragraph (in brackets) circles back on itself twice. Then the other paragraphs seem to concur with the first paragraph. All in all, that document looks like it would confuse the jury more than help them. If the 2nd paragraph was taken out, I think it would be more clear. You can’t provoke somebody and then claim self-defense. Maybe this is a sign the jury can convict at least on some charges.
Yeah. I guess the 2nd para is to prevent a perpetual state in which self defense becomes impossible.
 

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I love The Onion.

A year or two ago for a while - like two weeks - as a test I had as the only news sources The Onion and The Babylon Bee. I am convinced, to this day, that I’ve never been so well informed like I was during that time.
 
The problem with The Onion is that its increasingly hard to distinguish satire from actual headlines, especially the last five years or so.

That article is not too far off the mark from reality.
 
A little more on the Kenosha killer kid trying to pull a 'Kavanaugh'. <- So much alliteration, it's awesome!

What Kyle Rittenhouse displayed in a Kenosha, Wisconsin, courtroom this week as he testified in his homicide trial was what folks like to call an “ugly cry.”

Charged in the killings of two men and injury of another amid days of racial justice protests last summer, the defendant started to falter on the stand as he described that fateful night last August, when the then-17-year-old was armed with a rifle, patrolling the streets of a town that was not his own. Rittenhouse’s eyes shut almost completely, save for an occasional glance to his left in the direction of the jury. Then came the sobbing, which kept the rest of his response to his attorney’s questioning about that evening from escaping his quivering lips.

Rittenhouse’s blubbering was the headline of the day after the defendant offered his much-awaited testimony in the case Wednesday, recalling the night he shot Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber to death and “vaporized” much of the bicep of medic Gaige Grosskreutz, according to Grosskreutz’s testimony. Rittenhouse wasn’t weeping with regret; he was claiming self-defense, and recounting how he felt his life was in danger.
The trial and pretrial proceedings had already sparked a national outcry after Judge Bruce Schroeder decided last month that prosecutors may not refer to Rosenbaum, Huber, and Grosskreutz as “victims,” and that defense attorneys could call them “looters” or “arsonists.” Now with his tears, Rittenhouse has cast himself as the lone victim in his own homicide trial.

When he wasn’t crying, Rittenhouse explained why he had traveled the roughly 20 miles from Illinois. Earlier that day, he allegedly offered “condolences” to a business owner for cars that were set afire the previous night, and he said that he and a friend agreed to help provide armed protection for the business that night. The defendant also testified that he gave a bulletproof vest in his possession — issued by the Grayslake, Illinois, police department’s Explorer program for young people interested in law enforcement careers — to a friend, saying he felt he wouldn’t need it because, he recalled in the courtroom, “I’m going to be helping people.”


The Illinois teenager faces two counts of first-degree homicide and one of attempted homicide, along with three other charges in the shooting on August 25, 2020, just a couple of nights after a Kenosha police officer shot Black motorist Jacob Blake seven times in the back in front of three of his children. The killings of the demonstrators caused a national shock wave last summer, highlighting the powder keg of emotion surrounding arrests, clashes, and tense exchanges as tens of millions of Americans took to the streets to protest racial injustice

The debate this week has centered on whether the defendant’s spectacle was authentic. Whether or not the crying was real, it was a performance, and it had an audience. Like many white men accused of violent crimes and misconduct before him, Rittenhouse appealed with his tears not merely to the 12 fellow citizens who will decide his fate, but also to certain white members of the American public who too often see emotion like that and imagine only the faces of their sons — not any born to mothers who look like mine.
There is evidence that Rittenhouse conspicuously aligned himself with the “blue lives matter” crowd, so it’s worth considering his sobbing within the context of the toxic and limited view of manhood that remains so popular in America, particularly among the modern political right. Some compared Rittenhouse to Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s reaction when questioned during his confirmation hearings about Christine Blasey Ford’s credible allegations of sexual assault. Wednesday’s display from Rittenhouse bore some similarities to Kavanaugh’s sanctimonious anger, which he often dotted with cracks in his voice. As I wrote at the time, the future Supreme Court justice took advantage of the leeway that his gender and privilege affords to him, and Rittenhouse did the same.

It is a particular privilege to be considered a “boy” after you’ve become an adult — and when you’ve made decisions like Rittenhouse’s. In Rittenhouse’s case, he was generously characterized by the New York Times as someone “who has idolized law enforcement since he was young” and went to Kenosha “with at least one mission: to play the role of police officer and medic.” The prosecution noted a number of his lies Wednesday, including false claims to the press about being an EMT. Part of the discomfort as we watched him emote, to say nothing of the suspicion, may be that we’re generally unfamiliar with seeing boys and men exhibit emotion in such a public way. Vulnerability and common conceptions of manhood, especially among conservatives, have not traditionally been bedfellows.
However, Rittenhouse’s emotion on the stand should be an indictment of his behavior, not an excuse for it. By law, he was too young to have the weapon he used to kill. He told the court that the reason he picked the AR-15-style rifle, as opposed to a handgun, is he thought “it looked cool.”

Offering condolences for burning cars, and there to help people? 🤔
 
A little more on the Kenosha killer kid trying to pull a 'Kavanaugh'. <- So much alliteration, it's awesome!









Offering condolences for burning cars, and there to help people? 🤔
Is taking an AR-15 to a parking lot a customary way of mourning the loss of a car in Wisconsin?
 
Elie Mystal, writing for The Nation, talks about how the Rittenhouse trial lays bare systemic racism.

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This guy's gonna get away without a single charge, it is absolutely obvious by now. We already have bad takeaways from this (see above). This reminds me of a conversation I've had with a colleague of mine. Their kid just started at a prestigious Canadian college and we were chuckling about how much tougher they are on students compared to US. So we have these kids in the USA who never get realistic feedback (unless they parents provide it to them), who develop these enormous fragile egos. Arming them is a great idea.
 
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This guy's gonna get away without a single charge, it is absolutely obvious by now. We already have bad takeaways from this (see above). This reminds me of a conversation I've had with a colleague of mine. Their kid just started at a prestigious Canadian college and we were chuckling about how much tougher they are on students compared to US. So we have these kids in the USA who never get realistic feedback (unless they parents provide it to them), who develop these enormous fragile egos. Arming them is a great idea.
Sounds like this will be the case. I don't wish harm on anyone generally but this son of a bitch deserves whatever may happen to him on the streets and will have to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life.
 
Sounds like this will be the case. I don't wish harm on anyone generally but this son of a bitch deserves whatever may happen to him on the streets and will have to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life.

He's stupid. He will be in trouble again. And he may not make it the next time.
 
He's stupid. He will be in trouble again. And he may not make it the next time.
That's what I thought about George Zimmerman but nothing has ever happened to that guy, ever since that trial I've basically lost any faith in the system. It seems to favor vigilantism so I figure why should that be frowned upon the other way? The system clearly won't handle it. Where's Charles Bronson when we need him. 🤣
 
Sounds like this will be the case. I don't wish harm on anyone generally but this son of a bitch deserves whatever may happen to him on the streets and will have to look over his shoulder for the rest of his life.
He's stupid. He will be in trouble again. And he may not make it the next time.
He'll just join a white supremacist group and roll with it. I agree though, I'd be shocked if he didn't get in trouble in the future. I can only hope that time nobody will die...
 
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This guy's gonna get away without a single charge, it is absolutely obvious by now. We already have bad takeaways from this (see above). This reminds me of a conversation I've had with a colleague of mine. Their kid just started at a prestigious Canadian college and we were chuckling about how much tougher they are on students compared to US. So we have these kids in the USA who never get realistic feedback (unless they parents provide it to them), who develop these enormous fragile egos. Arming them is a great idea.
What I found interesting about the article in “The Nation” is that it was obvious to the author before the trial began that Rittenhouse would not be held responsible. I hope he is wrong, but I fear he is right.
 
What I found interesting about the article in “The Nation” is that it was obvious to the author before the trial began that Rittenhouse would not be held responsible. I hope he is wrong, but I fear he is right.
This whole thing is just a cascade where the originating element is cops not being held accountable.
 
In the closing argument, the judge allowed this to be uttered without challenge by the defense:

We don't play fast and loose with the facts, pretending that Mr. Rosenbaum was citizen A, No. 1 guy. He was a bad man. He was there. He was causing trouble. He was a rioter.
But calling Mr. Rosenbaum a “victim“ would be WAY TOO BIASED.

Yes, the people killed by Rittenhouse were the bad people, not Rittenhouse. Utter nonsense… I get it, the defense has to defend their client, but the judge is full of crap allowing such statements but blocking the use of the word “victim.”
 
That's what I thought about George Zimmerman but nothing has ever happened to that guy, ever since that trial I've basically lost any faith in the system. It seems to favor vigilantism so I figure why should that be frowned upon the other way? The system clearly won't handle it. Where's Charles Bronson when we need him. 🤣

Yeah, Zimmerman was stupid. But I think Rittenhouse won't be able to stay away from trouble. He's a stupid kid. He's not bright at all. Zimmerman was already an older adult and slightly more mature than Rittenhouse. Zimmerman also happened before Trump. Things are a lot worse now with the Trump cult out in full force. It won't be the last time we hear about this kid, especially if he aligns himself with the far right crazy idiots. If he were smart he would lay low and just live his life. But he's not smart lol
 
Yes, the people killed by Rittenhouse were the bad people, not Rittenhouse. Utter nonsense… I get it, the defense has to defend their client, but the judge is full of crap allowing such statements but blocking the use of the word “victim.”
Have they killed anyone by age 17? Kyle isn't at a great start for being a good person, especially considering his age.

Yeah, Zimmerman was stupid. But I think Rittenhouse won't be able to stay away from trouble. He's a stupid kid. He's not bright at all. Zimmerman was already an older adult and slightly more mature than Rittenhouse. Zimmerman also happened before Trump. Things are a lot worse now with the Trump cult out in full force. It won't be the last time we hear about this kid, especially if he aligns himself with the far right crazy idiots. If he were smart he would lay low and just live his life. But he's not smart lol
Agree 100%. The other difference is 💰💸💴💶💷💵💳💲🤑🤑🤑
In Zimmerman's era there was much harder to make money on this all.
Rittenhouse will be continuously tempted to capitalize on his infamy.
 
Have they killed anyone by age 17? Kyle isn't at a great start for being a good person, especially considering his age.


Agree 100%. The other difference is 💰💸💴💶💷💵💳💲🤑🤑🤑
In Zimmerman's era there was much harder to make money on this all.
Rittenhouse will be continuously tempted to capitalize on his infamy.
And Fox News will be front and center to advertise any fundraising campaigns he starts. However, one has to think civil suits could be a problem for him.
 
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