Apple announces more ads are coming to App Store search results

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turbineseaplane

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How do people feel about this?

I'm not a developer, and I presume those are the ones that are supposed to be enthused by this?

I also don't use the App Store for any browsing around. I just get updates and links from elsewhere that open the App Store so I can download the App in question, so again, more ADs in there is not something that will impact me.

Generally speaking, I hate ADs and block them anywhere I can, so I'm predisposed to find this news to be a negative thing.

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I think developers hate them too, as it often forces them to buy ads on their own names to avoid other apps from showing up. I don’t know why Apple feels it needs to do this nonsense.
 
Cmaier said:
I think developers hate them too, as it often forces them to buy ads on their own names to avoid other apps from showing up. I don’t know why Apple feels it needs to do this nonsense.
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That's the sense I've gotten from a bunch of them on Mastodon (not excited).
😞

It's like the old Google playbook of forcing folks to buy up their own result in AdWords and ensure you are the "top" result for a search -- for you/your own product.
 
turbineseaplane said:
My apologies. I surely never meant to drive anyone away.
Things get a little feisty there at times.
Willing to give me another chance?
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You have a post history of tens of thousands of posts spanning a range of years longer than some people have been alive trolling and hating on Apple. I have no idea what compels you, but the fact that you've been allowed to do it for so long is testament to the fact of what a shithole MacRumors has become, embracing hatred not only of Apple but of humanity in general in pursuit of the almighty dollar and pageview.

I am not derailing this thread, but no. Spend another 15 years and tens of thousands of posts being sensible and positive, then we'll talk.
 
RockRock8 said:
You have a post history of tens of thousands of posts spanning a range of years longer than some people have been alive trolling and hating on Apple. I have no idea what compels you, but the fact that you've been allowed to do it for so long is testament to the fact of what a shithole MacRumors has become, embracing hatred not only of Apple but of humanity in general in pursuit of the almighty dollar and pageview.

I am not derailing this thread, but no. Spend another 15 years and tens of thousands of posts being sensible and positive, then we'll talk.
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I'm sorry you feel that way and certainly that I've given you these perceptions.

I hear you and respect what you are saying and understand how I could come across this way.

I definitely do not hate humanity and not Apple either. I've been a user since the 80's but I'm critical of where things have gone, there is no question and that I'm sure comes out more than the positive stuff, unfortunately.
 
turbineseaplane said:
I'm sorry you feel that way and certainly that I've given you these perceptions.

I hear you and respect what you are saying and understand how I could come across this way.

I definitely do not hate humanity and not Apple either. I've been a user since the 80's but I'm critical of where things have gone, there is no question and that I'm sure comes out more than the positive stuff, unfortunately.
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And that is your opinion, which you treat as fact regardless of whether it is.

Your posts are actively hostile to other people, Apple, and people who come to discuss stuff in good faith, and I've directly seen you fool people into posting just to piss them off and get them banned.

Your faux pretentious parliamentarian-like peace talk does not fool anyone. Your post history speaks for itself. MacRumors turned into a total troll and clickbait shithole, and they actively protect their most active members who help them drive traffic.
 
RockRock8 said:
And that is your opinion, which you treat as fact regardless of whether it is.

Your posts are actively hostile to other people, Apple, and people who come to discuss stuff in good faith, and I've directly seen you fool people into posting just to piss them off and get them banned.

Your faux pretentious parliamentarian-like peace talk does not fool anyone. Your post history speaks for itself. MacRumors turned into a total troll and clickbait shithole, and they actively protect their most active members who help them drive traffic.
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With respect, this feels a little uncalled for (in a few ways).
 
turbineseaplane said:
With respect, this feels a little uncalled for (in a few ways).
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I'm sorry you feel that way and certainly that I've given you these perceptions.

I hear you and respect what you are saying and understand how I could come across this way.

Because I've been specifically driven away from a site I loved simply because you (and others) constantly wrote blatant troll comments. And now you come here. So yeah, I'm a little irritated.

As I said, if you're sincere, spend the next 18 years and 20,000 posts being a little more positive and supportive, and less provocative simply for the sake of it. If you don't like Apple, it's okay to stop and walk away at some point!

If you are actually sincere in your comments it wasn't your intention to drive away people, I hope my comments make you think about how negative your stuff comes across and the effect it has on people.

This is my last comment on this topic. I sincerely hope you give thought to what I've said, because others in my discussions with people have specifically said similar to me.
 
I respect what you've said and have heard you for sure @RockRock8

I just want to close by saying I didn't just come here. I was actually invited, years ago now (2021 IIRC), back when it was TalkedAbout.

I do appreciate your feedback and I hope you'll just give me a chance here and judge me on what I do and say here, as opposed to MR. 🙏. Happy Christmas
 
Cmaier said:
I think developers hate them too, as it often forces them to buy ads on their own names to avoid other apps from showing up. I don’t know why Apple feels it needs to do this nonsense.
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As they should be, aside from the annual fee they're getting dinged for 30% app fees. Now to throw advertising in on their content as well? This is why monopolies are bad.
 
Eric said:
As they should be, aside from the annual fee they're getting dinged for 30% app fees. Now to throw advertising in on their content as well? This is why monopolies are bad.
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99% of developers pay 15%, not 30%, to Apple, and that's only for IAP revenue; and most developers pay nothing to Apple (developer get 100% of in app advertising revenue) -- not to mention the fact that their apps aren't possible without using Apple's technology.
App Store gives anyone with a Mac and $99 access to 2.5 billion devices that pay out 8X what Android does. And you get tooling and technology that is updated all the time, not to mention technology that is forward thinking, not just a refusal to adopt new stuff.

That argument works both ways: developers can pay for ads, not just have "advertising thrown on their content" (which... they don't).

Vertical integration isn't a monopoly. iOS is 20% of the global market. Plenty of competitors to go to if a user or developer doesn't want to deal with the app store's privacy and security guidelines.
 
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