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Yesterday I picked my wife up from the airport and on the way home in the car we spent maybe a minute or two talking about a flat tire on her recently deceased father's motorcycle, I asked if he had an air compressor. It was just in passing and that was that. Here's what I'm seeing in Amazon today, these are specifically designed for motorcycles.


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Nobody googled it or anything else. This invasion of privacy is getting out of control, we have both turned off access to our mics for most apps in the phone so it's hard to know how they picked it up.
 
casperes1996 said:
Creepy. What’s the car? Could it be part of the tracking?

Any Meta apps with mic access like messenger?
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Nearly all of mine are turned off but I'll have to double check with my wife, we did turn most of hers off previously too though. The only other thing is the BMW with CarPlay. Something was clearly listening though, the targeting doesn't get much more blatant than this.
 
We live in mic's environment. Our phones are listening to us every second, sniffing for keywords, all the time. The "AI" architecture (really just basic computer architecture but more sophisticated) is monitoring us constantly – you can tell because of how inane it is, the way it obviously converges toward what you have been discussing instead of making more subtle, elaborate inferences.
 
It’s probably buried in one of the T&Cs that any one of those apps can use the mic even while it is selected off for ”learning purposes”. I’d also think that you would have to opt out of passing your data to third parties or partners. All of which probably either renders the app useless or they ave an addendum to an update that says they can whatever the f**k they want to do.

We waived our rights to privacy a long time ago all in the name of convenience and immediacy.
 
rdrr said:
It’s probably buried in one of the T&Cs that any one of those apps can use the mic even while it is selected off for ”learning purposes”. I’d also think that you would have to opt out of passing your data to third parties or partners. All of which probably either renders the app useless or they ave an addendum to an update that says they can whatever the f**k they want to do.
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The problem is that if it is iOS, then apps can't get access to the mic without the user being able to disable it at the system level. Android is much the same on recent versions. So if this is from an iOS device, then it either means:

A) Some app is listening in, and you can disable it at the system level.
B) Apple is selling Siri-related audio captures (which they say they don't, and that the mic only listens for the trigger phrase).
C) The car itself is the culprit and the location data from the car got tied to other identifiers (IP address) when you parked.

EDIT: That said, even just one bad actor that was enabled on either phone would be enough to get these ads, since you and your wife would get tied to the same IP address at home.
 
Nycturne said:
The problem is that if it is iOS, then apps can't get access to the mic without the user being able to disable it at the system level. Android is much the same on recent versions. So if this is from an iOS device, then it either means:

A) Some app is listening in, and you can disable it at the system level.
B) Apple is selling Siri-related audio captures (which they say they don't, and that the mic only listens for the trigger phrase).
C) The car itself is the culprit and the location data from the car got tied to other identifiers (IP address) when you parked.

EDIT: That said, even just one bad actor that was enabled on either phone would be enough to get these ads, since you and your wife would get tied to the same IP address at home.
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I vote C
 
The same thing happened with beef ribs, which I've been talking to my wife about for the last couple of weeks. Again, never looking it up or anything. So yesterday we looked and she still had 4 or 5 apps using her mic and we shut them all off, hope this makes a difference because it does feel like a huge invasion of privacy when you don't know where it's coming from.
 
Eric said:
The same thing happened with beef ribs, which I've been talking to my wife about for the last couple of weeks. Again, never looking it up or anything. So yesterday we looked and she still had 4 or 5 apps using her mic and we shut them all off, hope this makes a difference because it does feel like a huge invasion of privacy when you don't know where it's coming from.
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Are you willing to name and shame those apps?
 
Do not install meta apps. Messenger requests mic access for example. Also if you’ve been in proximity or conversation with someone who has mic enabled or the apps installled, guess what?
 
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