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[Cmaier]

I am holding on to 1Password, mostly because work has an enterprise license that includes a free Family account. Also, the downside to passkeys could be the risk of your phone being swiped and the bad guy having the keys to the kingdom. Now granted, there are ways to make sure that doesn't happen, but after chasing a bad actor for nearly half an hour in Nice, France, on the back of a scooter (going the wrong way on one-way roads and up on sidewalks), I did have a moment of horror about that very situation. This was pre security update, to delay of the recovery of your apple ID.

how would someone swiping your phone have the keys to the kingdom? They can’t biometrically authenticate to get the passkey out of the secure store.

 

[Eric]

how would someone swiping your phone have the keys to the kingdom? They can’t biometrically authenticate to get the passkey out of the secure store.

This is how I also see it, if you trust in Apple's security which is second to none from which I can see then you're good to go. To me this is the way forward, it's no different than a key to your home or car only it's more secured if you happen to lose it or if it gets stolen.

 

[Roller]

I am holding on to 1Password, mostly because work has an enterprise license that includes a free Family account. Also, the downside to passkeys could be the risk of your phone being swiped and the bad guy having the keys to the kingdom. Now granted, there are ways to make sure that doesn't happen, but after chasing a bad actor for nearly half an hour in Nice, France, on the back of a scooter (going the wrong way on one-way roads and up on sidewalks), I did have a moment of horror about that very situation. This was pre security update, to delay of the recovery of your apple ID.

I still use 1Password as well. Although it's gotten bloated over the years and doesn't work as well on websites as it once did, I keep it for its ability to have separate and shared accounts for me and my wife.

 

[Cmaier]

I still use 1Password as well. Although it's gotten bloated over the years and doesn't work as well on websites as it once did, I keep it for its ability to have separate and shared accounts for me and my wife.

One of the nice things about apple’s passwords app is you can create separate folders and choose who you share them with - so I have financial passwords and such shared with my wife, and streaming services shared with my wife and kid. Don’t know if 1password lets you do that sort of thing or not - the version of 1password I am on is pretty old.

 

[Eric]

One of the nice things about apple’s passwords app is you can create separate folders and choose who you share them with - so I have financial passwords and such shared with my wife, and streaming services shared with my wife and kid. Don’t know if 1password lets you do that sort of thing or not - the version of 1password I am on is pretty old.

Interesting, can it use them as passkeys?

 

[Nycturne]

There must be a better, more ubiquitous, way in the future and I'm hoping Passkey is it.

Unfortunately, your experience here isn't really solved by Passkeys alone, because passkeys only work well when there is something to manage them. You can't remember them and they need to be available on all your devices. So they either need to be hardware-bound (Yubikey) or software-bound to a manager of some kind. And so the latter means you are still dependent on Last Pass, 1Password, Apple Passwords, etc. So you still need your password manager to have a good experience, since you'll be constantly interacting with it.

Unfortunately, hardware-bound keys tend to break things like password-less auth because the same private key can be associated with multiple accounts. Software-bound keys are always 1:1, with new ones being generated as-needed.

I am holding on to 1Password, mostly because work has an enterprise license that includes a free Family account. Also, the downside to passkeys could be the risk of your phone being swiped and the bad guy having the keys to the kingdom. Now granted, there are ways to make sure that doesn't happen, but after chasing a bad actor for nearly half an hour in Nice, France, on the back of a scooter (going the wrong way on one-way roads and up on sidewalks), I did have a moment of horror about that very situation. This was pre security update, to delay of the recovery of your apple ID.

This is one reason we stuck with 1Password at first: family accounts. I can configure services and push the account details into a shared vault. Makes things easier with a less savvy partner. The other being the fact that Apple's integration isn't really there for Linux yet, if ever. And with my partner seriously considering installing Linux for gaming and basic desktop puttering around... it's an even bigger mark against Apple's solution at the moment.

Interesting, can it use them as passkeys?

If you mean "Can Apple's Passwords manager store passkeys and share them with family members" then yes.

 

[Cmaier]

Interesting, can it use them as passkeys?

Yes. The passkeys are shared with family members (if you choose to do so), and they can use them as long as they biometrically authenticate (or use their PIN, I guess).

 

[Eric]

Yes. The passkeys are shared with family members (if you choose to do so), and they can use them as long as they biometrically authenticate (or use their PIN, I guess).

Okay, I just imported all them into the Passwords app from LastPass, I'll continue to work with it as I really trust Apple and they're far more intuitive.

 

[Roller]

One of the nice things about apple’s passwords app is you can create separate folders and choose who you share them with - so I have financial passwords and such shared with my wife, and streaming services shared with my wife and kid. Don’t know if 1password lets you do that sort of thing or not - the version of 1password I am on is pretty old.

Yes, 1Password will do that. Another reason I like it is that it has templates for data types other than passwords, such as credit cards, driver licenses, and passports. It also lets me store scans of these documents, which comes in handy. The subscription costs me about $5/month, which I find well worth it.

 

[Cmaier]

Yes, 1Password will do that. Another reason I like it is that it has templates for data types other than passwords, such as credit cards, driver licenses, and passports. It also lets me store scans of these documents, which comes in handy. The subscription costs me about $5/month, which I find well worth it.

Yeah, I liked 1passwords templates, but I get around that now by using the “notes” field on apple passwords. The reason I stopped using 1password wasn’t the subscription fee, it was that they stopped letting you self-host the passwords file. I can’t have certain passwords floating around on some third party’s server when I have no reason to trust them.