Iran and Iranian Women

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Can you imagine living in a country where you are required to cover your hair but only if you are a woman? How about not being allowed to drive a vehicle? The sexist double standards the Iranian culture (most of the Middle East) has placed on woman is primitive and contrary to civil rights.

The entire world has been and is sexist, with men most of the time in the drivers seat.


What is terrible is when authorities likely rape and kill a young woman and then think that with Alla‘s blessing that it is holy to blatant lie about her death at the hands of the “Moral” Police. Just another example of human failings.

Oh, she fainted and passed away. Her death was bcause of an underlying illness.

As a side note, as far as we know in the USA, the GOP are not yet raping and killing women, but the standard of lying to fool people is well established. And when authorites or a political party decide that lieing, is a valid, justifiable, ends justifies the means, and there is no major pushback, then we are screwed. Might as well put a shit like Donald Trump in charge to finish the job of wholesale corruption. :oops:
 
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We have a couple Iranian women who live next door to us. They said before the Islamic revolution women were elevated far higher than they are in other countries in the region, like almost Amazon women status. So with that history they are beyond pissed off at this point.
 
We have a couple Iranian women who live next door to us. They said before the Islamic revolution women were elevated far higher than they are in other countries in the region, like almost Amazon women status. So with that history they are beyond pissed off at this point.

Yeah they are, and not for the first time. They actually did better with social reforms (right to vote, marry, divorce, work and seek higher education, dress as they liked) under the Shah's by-decree style of secularly leaning government, than how they've done as the hardline clerics gained outright practical control over Iran's governance.

But the Shah's brutal repression of all political dissent finally put the women on the side of the anti-autocratic revolution at its inception in 1979. The social reforms and lean to western-style individual liberties had let them think there would be a transition to political reforms as well. But they ended up bitterly disappointed.

After the overthrow of the Shah, as clerics began retracting social reforms, not just women but men as well soon realized loss of social freedoms they had been granted by the Shah in order to reduce popular political threat to his one-man rule. Memories are long, especially if they involve a taste of freedoms later taken away.

A brief summary of modern Iranian history in the run-up to1979:

 
Started watching the Hostages documentary on HBO which is about the Iranian hostage crisis in the 70’s. The first episode goes over what a historically great relationship the US had with the Shah of Iran. What at least partially started the Islamic revolution was his extravagant lifestyle while the poor suffered, and one extravagant party of world leaders really set the population off.

This made me realize what a mindshare firewall our government in the US has set up. While we may not have any billionaire politicians (yet), it’s still the billionaires and those slightly below them that control the government. But we can’t seem to get past attacking the puppets to attacking the puppet masters. About the only time we attack the puppet masters is when we can tie them to a political party we don’t like. The fossil fuel Republicans and the tech elite Democrats. This insolates our government from any meaningful change as long as we keep going after the middleman while leaving those who make the calls unscathed or even elevated. Trump was the rare example of being both, at least for a brief time in history.
 
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