LOL re: Durham

[Cmaier]

Jury Clears Ex-Perkins Coie Partner Of Lying To FBI - Law360 Pulse

A federal jury has cleared ex-Perkins Coie LLP partner and Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann of a felony charge of lying to the FBI when he came forward with a tip in the run-up to the 2016 election about potential ties between then-candidate Donald Trump and a Russian bank.

www.law360.com

This the biggest scandal the republican turdburgers could come up with?

 

[Renzatic]

Obviously, the trial was rigged, and the jury corrupt.

 

[SuperMatt]

Next up: Hunter’s laptop will go on trial, followed by butter emails.

 

[JayMysteri0]

Obviously, the trial was rigged, and the jury corrupt.

Of course it was rigged.

As a seating supreme court justice & his wife have made cleared. If things don't go one way's side it was rigged & they have a right to be upset. On the flip side, if things go the way of that side then the other side has to be bigger persons and be able to accept disappointment.

It's what passes for the norm for one side of the ideological spectrum now.

 

[dukebound85]

Jury Clears Ex-Perkins Coie Partner Of Lying To FBI - Law360 Pulse

A federal jury has cleared ex-Perkins Coie LLP partner and Hillary Clinton campaign lawyer Michael Sussmann of a felony charge of lying to the FBI when he came forward with a tip in the run-up to the 2016 election about potential ties between then-candidate Donald Trump and a Russian bank.

www.law360.com

This the biggest scandal the republican turdburgers could come up with?

ugh, paywall

 

[Cmaier]

ugh, paywall

sorry :-( Should be lots of sources by now - this was the first one that came into my email inbox before I saw it anywhere online

 

[Renzatic]

Of course it was rigged.

As a seating supreme court justice & his wife have made cleared. If things don't go one way's side it was rigged & they have a right to be upset. On the flip side, if things go the way of that side then the other side has to be bigger persons and be able to accept disappointment.

It's what passes for the norm for one side of the ideological spectrum now.

I heard they pulled jurists from a demographic that was 80% democrat.

 

[Cmaier]

I heard they pulled jurists from a demographic that was 80% democrat.

Given that it's hard to explain what the supposed crime is, and that there were no other witnesses or even contemporaneous notes about the supposed lie, I'd like to think that jury make-up wan't a big factor here.

 

[Renzatic]

Given that it's hard to explain what the supposed crime is, and that there were no other witnesses or even contemporaneous notes about the supposed lie, I'd like to think that jury make-up wan't a big factor here.

There are the facts, and then there are the excuses used to dismiss said facts.

 

[Cmaier]

There are the facts, and then there are the excuses used to dismiss said facts.

Ok?

I think the point here is that the prosecution has the burden of proving a crime, and they couldn’t even prove the first element - that the statement which they allege to be a lie was even ever made. Not to mention that they couldn’t prove it was untrue.

 

[SuperMatt]

Given that it's hard to explain what the supposed crime is, and that there were no other witnesses or even contemporaneous notes about the supposed lie, I'd like to think that jury make-up wan't a big factor here.

Men have to wear makeup on jury duty too? Stupid woke mob...

 

[Cmaier]

Men have to wear makeup on jury duty too? Stupid woke mob...

Eh. I give that joke a 4 out of 10.

 

[Renzatic]

Ok?

I think the point here is that the prosecution has the burden of proving a crime, and they couldn’t even prove the first element - that the statement which they allege to be a lie was even ever made. Not to mention that they couldn’t prove it was untrue.

You're discussing the merits of the case, while I'm discussing why it doesn't matter, because someone will always find a reason to doubt the outcome.

The most recent one is that the judge was a Hillary supporter, three jurors were Clinton campaign donors, one an AOC donor, and one has a child who plays on the same soccer team as Sussman's kid. Deep state conspiracy.

 

[Citysnaps]

In the past I always had a lot of respect for US Attorneys and believed they were above politics. Closely watching Durham after he was appointed changed that, and then bringing such a mice-nuts case to trial sealed the deal.

How much money was spent on this?

 

[SuperMatt]

You're discussing the merits of the case, while I'm discussing why it doesn't matter, because someone will always find a reason to doubt the outcome.

The most recent one is that the judge was a Hillary supporter, three jurors were Clinton campaign donors, one an AOC donor, and one has a child who plays on the same soccer team as Sussman's kid. Deep state conspiracy.

Yeah I saw that nonsense in the Fox News report. Their report on this nearly inconsequential trial was the longest piece I’ve ever seen on their website.

In the past I always had a lot of respect for US Attorneys and believed they were above politics. Closely watching Durham after he was appointed changed that, and then bringing such a mice-nuts case to trial sealed the deal.

And the fact that Bill Barr appointed him as a special prosecutor for something so inconsequential was clearly meant to be political payback for the Mueller Report. The Trump administration was one of the worst of all time for sure.

If Republicans take the house in 2022, they might re-investigate all of this again, or more likely they will move onto hundreds of investigations of Hunter’s laptop. If those don’t work out, there’s always butter emails and Benghazi to fall back on.

 

[Citysnaps]

And the fact that Bill Barr appointed him as a special prosecutor for something so inconsequential was clearly meant to be political payback for the Mueller Report. The Trump administration was one of the worst of all time for sure.

Exactly.

If that were handed to an Assistant US Attorney in any district, the response would have been, "Really? Did I do something wrong?"

 

[SuperMatt]

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1531671901717807105/

 

[GermanSuplex]

Obviously, the trial was rigged, and the jury corrupt.

You read the Fox comment section and that’s exactly the reaction.

It’s funny, as Ari Melber mentioned tonight, federal prosecutors don’t usually lose these cases. For this to be the first hurrah from that investigation… yikes. And the right is acting exactly the same as the left did after the Mueller report - angry, feeling like justice wasn’t done, etc. The left feels this investigation was a sham, the right feels the Mueller investigation was a scam.

It’s incredible how everything just mirrors each other, and each side feels virtually about the same as the other, and as strong as convictions in each other.

The key difference being that the right is mostly wrong.

 

[SuperMatt]

You read the Fox comment section and that’s exactly the reaction.

It’s funny, as Ari Melber mentioned tonight, federal prosecutors don’t usually lose these cases. For this to be the first hurrah from that investigation… yikes. And the right is acting exactly the same as the left did after the Mueller report - angry, feeling like justice wasn’t done, etc. The left feels this investigation was a sham, the right feels the Mueller investigation was a scam.

It’s incredible how everything just mirrors each other, and each side feels virtually about the same as the other, and as strong as convictions in each other.

The key difference being that the right is mostly wrong.

The dangers of both-sides-ism. We had two special investigations. Mueller’s resulted in multiple arrests and convictions (the fact that Trump pardoned these people is rank corruption). Durham’s is a nothing burger.

We should be relying on the facts, not mindlessly backing the tribe. The rampant corruption in the Trump administration is exactly the same as Hunter Biden trying to trade on his dad’s name? It’s not even close, but it matters not to the “Let’s Go Brandon” crowd.

 

[GermanSuplex]

Obviously, the trial was rigged, and the jury corrupt.

I quoted you earlier, but I have to do it again after seeing Trump’s “Truth” (what the cult calls “Tweets”).

*Sidenote - American exceptionalism means you can’t ask why school shootings are unique to America (according to Cancun Cruz), but I guess all this horseshit is ok? I also notice Trump left off mass shootings from his list.