Nuvia: don’t hold your breath

Here is an image that seems to suggest three versions of the SoC
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It looks from the chart as though Qualcomm may be going big.little in some of the second gen. The linked site is difficult to read, as the text is mostly Hangul.
I think that chart has mashed the current generation with the next one. Those X Elite and Plus models are the current ones. I do believe that the next generation of Qualcomm chips will be big.Little, but while the current ones had an 8+4 config, they were all the same core.
 
SoftBank buying Ampere and ARM to actually make chips for Meta:


This came up during the trial when ARM waffled on whether they would do this saying they had explored it but abandoned the idea because they would be competing with their customers. I guess they changed their mind. I believe ARM is continuing to challenge the previous case, but only the question, about Nuvia's license, that the jury was hung on rather than both.
 

Snapdragon vs Lunar Lake Part 2

I posted on here about a week and a half ago asking if i should get the snapdragon or Lunar lake SL7. I ended up buying both with plans to return one. Here are the differences I noticed aside from software/hardware compatibility.

1. The snapdragon is much smoother than the lunar lake in terms of scrolling, pinch/zoom, opening/closing windows, and TouchPad gestures. The animations for snapdragon are buttery smooth in moving from window to window or desktop and the lunar lake seems to have a delay and/or drop in framerate. Sometimes the animations just don't work at all and it just "jumps" straight to the desktop. This is a huge deal breaker for me as I wanted a windows laptop with a similar feel as a macbook. Once I've used the snapdragon it is hard to go back to the Intel one.

2. Lunar lake fan noise kicks in more often (although it's still quiet)

3. Lunar lake gets medium warm-hot on the bottom, specifically in the middle towards the back closer the the hinges.
 
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I ran some totally unscientific tests on an ARM SP11 by loading up explorer, the start menu and quick settings menu while monitoring resource usage in Task Manager. CPU and GPU usage shoot up quickly to 10% and then quickly ramp down to idle.

The Lunar Lake GPU has much higher performance compared to Adreno so it can't be the GPU contributing to snappiness. I think it's a combination of the Windows scheduler and the Oryon core design that allows extremely fast voltage/frequency ramp-up for performance and then ramping down to idle just as fast for efficiency. It really feels like an Apple Silicon MacBook.”
 
Yeah in truth lunar lake big core ST is as good as Oryon for Integer (which again says a lot about Intel given this crafty skunk works effort, so should horrify them) on performance/w and performance. And the e cores are a bit better at very low power.

This is something that’s missed even if the dynamic power is fine I think. They can’t us their p core cluster the same way QC would or Apple. It has lower latency and a great memory subsystem but like, is that worth it overall? Doubtful.


could be a firmware issue with scheduling per MS but I think most likely there may really be something to the idea Oryon can ramp faster and Intel is more cautious about using P cores in the real world, because even having those at near idle sucks extra power due to their awful fabric for the P cores.

Qualcomm’s clusters design are the closest to Apple by all structural means we can tell.
 
I think that chart has mashed the current generation with the next one. Those X Elite and Plus models are the current ones. I do believe that the next generation of Qualcomm chips will be big.Little, but while the current ones had an 8+4 config, they were all the same core.
Yep
 
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