People confusing standard aircraft for UFOs

[Eric]

There's a craze going on right now and we keep seeing and hearing about unidentified "drones" in the skies. Was recently in a meeting with my Part 107 (drone certification) instructor and he's also a pilot who regularly flies, he said even pilots can mistake these things, especially at night.

What's key to me are the red, green and white lights that we see on all of these "sightings". They are standard aircraft colors required by the FAA, so I don't think there's anything too these as much as suddenly everyone is looking into the skies at night instead of their phones and realizing there are aircraft all over the place. When I fly my drone and have to look up I'm always amazed at how much I see up there.

 

[GermanSuplex]

It’s an issue with technology leap-frogging public knowledge and policy.

 

[ArgoDuck]

Or, following some house members’ statements about the white house steering hurricanes toward republican states, is this a touch of ‘end of days’ paranoia?

We live in strange times, and they will get stranger.

 

[Eric]

Or, following some house members’ statements about the white house steering hurricanes toward republican states, is this a touch of ‘end of days’ paranoia?

We live in strange times, and they will get stranger.

The sheer ignorance of those in charge should frighten us all.

 

[Yoused]

Here is the pièce de résisitance of mistaking common aircraft for UFOs – only, bass-ackwards. Larry Hogan, former governor of Maryland, observed a formation of drones hovering over his home. He took pictures of them. The images clearly revealed that Orion was spying on him. Siriusly.

(Orion the constellation, if you did not get it.)

 

[Eric]

Here is the pièce de résisitance of mistaking common aircraft for UFOs – only, bass-ackwards. Larry Hogan, former governor of Maryland, observed a formation of drones hovering over his home. He took pictures of them. The images clearly revealed that Orion was spying on him. Siriusly.

(Orion the constellation, if you did not get it.)

My flight instructor said the was fooled by the exact same thing, admitting that even experienced pilots can't even tell sometimes.

 

[japanime]

Here is the pièce de résisitance of mistaking common aircraft for UFOs – only, bass-ackwards. Larry Hogan, former governor of Maryland, observed a formation of drones hovering over his home. He took pictures of them. The images clearly revealed that Orion was spying on him. Siriusly.

(Orion the constellation, if you did not get it.)

Someone Siriusly needs to tell the former governor, "Larry, you need to take your head out of Uranus."

 

[Yoused]

Someone Siriusly needs to tell the former governor, "Larry, you need to take your head out of Uranus."

Oh, now you are going below the Belt.

 

[Herdfan]

But if they are just standard aircraft, why is the Majority Leader of the Senate asking for detection equipment?

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer has requested that "special detection systems" be deployed in New York and New Jersey after recent drone sightings fueled anxiety among residents in the region.

And why are additional resources being deployed? And why did the head of Homeland call them drones? If in fact they are just standard manned aircraft?

Earlier Sunday, Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said the federal government is "deploying additional resources" to address the aerial drones.

US deploys resources on drone sightings; NY to receive 'state-of-the-art' detection system

For the last few weeks, people in New Jersey have reported repeated drone sightings, which have expanded to New York and Maryland.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Cmaier]

But if they are just standard aircraft, why is the Majority Leader of the Senate asking for detection equipment?



And why are additional resources being deployed? And why did the head of Homeland call them drones? If in fact they are just standard manned aircraft?

US deploys resources on drone sightings; NY to receive 'state-of-the-art' detection system

For the last few weeks, people in New Jersey have reported repeated drone sightings, which have expanded to New York and Maryland.

www.usatoday.com

Is it suddenly your opinion that government officials know what they are talking about?

I’m guessing there were a few drones, people got all panicky, and now they see Musk’s T-Mobile constellation going up and flying around, planes, legit drones, etc., and now everything is a secret trans air force coming to chemically castrate their pets.

 

[Eric]

But if they are just standard aircraft, why is the Majority Leader of the Senate asking for detection equipment?



And why are additional resources being deployed? And why did the head of Homeland call them drones? If in fact they are just standard manned aircraft?

US deploys resources on drone sightings; NY to receive 'state-of-the-art' detection system

For the last few weeks, people in New Jersey have reported repeated drone sightings, which have expanded to New York and Maryland.

www.usatoday.com

To listen to both McConnell and Hogan you would think they were a couple of toddlers who have never looked in the sky before, their ignorance is embarrassing. Not sure where the mindset that politicians know better than experts came from but it needs to stop.

The reason they're not hearing anything from actual professionals is because there is nothing to report other than the flow of normal air traffic.

 

[Herdfan]

Is it suddenly your opinion that government officials know what they are talking about?

Not really, but I know most of you do.

I’m guessing there were a few drones, people got all panicky, and now they see Musk’s T-Mobile constellation going up and flying around, planes, legit drones, etc., and now everything is a secret trans air force coming to chemically castrate their pets.

And now Mayorkas wants states to have the power to shoot them down. Sorry, but this is not really sounding like they know what they are.

The US Homeland Security secretary has said states need the power to shoot down drones following criticisms of the government’s response to sightings across the East Coast.

Give states the power to shoot down drones, says Homeland Security secretary

Alejandro Mayorkas wants state and local authorities to have the ability to counter drone activity following criticism

www.telegraph.co.uk

Hammer away at me all you want, but these comments do not sound like they are referring to normal manned aircraft.

 

[Herdfan]

To listen to both McConnell and Hogan you would think they were a couple of toddlers who have never looked in the sky before, their ignorance is embarrassing. Not sure where the mindset that politicians know better than experts came from but it needs to stop.

The reason they're not hearing anything from actual professionals is because there is nothing to report other than the flow of normal air traffic.

I didn't quote McConnell or Hogan. I quoted Schumer and Mayorkas. Or are they also toddlers?

 

[Eric]

I didn't quote McConnell or Hogan. I quoted Schumer and Mayorkas. Or are they also toddlers?

My bad. Yes, 100% toddlers and dumbasses. To reiterate (and I don't give a rats ass what party any of them belong to)

their ignorance is embarrassing. Not sure where the mindset that politicians know better than experts came from but it needs to stop.

 

[Herdfan]

My bad. Yes, 100% toddlers and dumbasses. To reiterate (and I don't give a rats ass what party any of them belong to)

Schumer, sure.

But Mayorkas is the HEAD of the department that should be 100% up to speed on this. And while he himself may not be an expert, he certainly has access to them.

 

[Eric]

Schumer, sure.

But Mayorkas is the HEAD of the department that should be 100% up to speed on this. And while he himself may not be an expert, he certainly has access to them.

You must have missed Hogan, a normally reasonable man IMO by most measures, as he claimed they were all flying over his house like some sort of paranoid idiot.

The "HEAD" of the department would likely never be notified of standard air traffic on a daily (or nightly) basis. Nothing is being reported because there is nothing to report. On average there are over 5000 planes in the sky on a daily basis, not added to that sum are all other forms of aircraft, helicopters, drones, UAS, UAV, etc by the tens of thousands.

I can take my drone up to 300 ft at night and watch a passenger jet fly in the same line of site and they both look like they're about to hit each other, even though the passenger jet is at 10K or 20K feet. It's very deceiving up there but one thing all of these reports have in common are official red, green, and white FAA governed lights. This tells us they're common aircraft. Go out to any city at any time of night and enjoy them of that's your thing but it's nothing out of the ordinary.

 

[Cmaier]

You must have missed Hogan, a normally reasonable man IMO by most measures, as he claimed they were all flying over his house like some sort of paranoid idiot.

The "HEAD" of the department would likely never be notified of standard air traffic on a daily (or nightly) basis. Nothing is being reported because there is nothing to report. On average there are over 5000 planes in the sky on a daily basis, not added to that sum are all other forms of aircraft, helicopters, drones, UAS, UAV, etc by the tens of thousands.

I can take my drone up to 300 ft at night and watch a passenger jet fly in the same line of site and they both look like they're about to hit each other, even though the passenger jet is at 10K or 20K feet. It's very deceiving up there but one thing all of these reports have in common are official red, green, and white FAA governed lights. This tells us they're common aircraft. Go out to any city at any time of night and enjoy them of that's your thing but it's nothing out of the ordinary.

i just am looking forward to finding out where this conspiracy theory is leading. Who are we looking to blame here? Venezuelan illegal immigrants scraped up the cash to launch car-sized drones to ... spy on our pets so they can eat them? China invented drones that can somehow fly thousands of miles to spy on all the goings-on in Hoboken? The Deep State is taking inventory of which houses the Christians live in, so we know where to send the effeminating gases with the contrails?

What's the payload here?

 

[Cmaier]

 

[Herdfan]

You must have missed Hogan, a normally reasonable man IMO by most measures, as he claimed they were all flying over his house like some sort of paranoid idiot.

Yeah I read it. But he is a former Governor so who knows why he said it.

The "HEAD" of the department would likely never be notified of standard air traffic on a daily (or nightly) basis. Nothing is being reported because there is nothing to report.

That same head of the department is asking to give states permission to shoot these things down.

Things will get bad if people start shooting guns in the air. One they will most likely miss what they are shooting at, but since they won’t be shooting straight up, the round will maintain its ballistic properties and could be a danger where it comes down.

But question about your drone. I know DJI locks them out of no fly zones, but one guy who sent his up to try and look at one of these said his loses power in no fly zones. So he was wondering how these were flying in a restricted zone. Mine does not have any lockout features.

Does yours lose power or just lock you out of no fly zones?

 

[Eric]

Yeah I read it. But he is a former Governor so who knows why he said it.

You're hellbent on politicizing this when it makes no difference, they played the report on TV and that's why I cited it. Could've been a liberal democrat for all I care, it was ridiculous.

That same head of the department is asking to give states permission to shoot these things down.

Things will get bad if people start shooting guns in the air. One they will most likely miss what they are shooting at, but since they won’t be shooting straight up, the round will maintain its ballistic properties and could be a danger where it comes down.

Is it 100 feet or 20,000 feet? Perspective is always distorted from the ground. Some idiot is likely going to kill someone because even the most powerful at the top don't seem to know the difference between a consumer drone and a passenger jet.

But question about your drone. I know DJI locks them out of no fly zones, but one guy who sent his up to try and look at one of these said his loses power in no fly zones. So he was wondering how these were flying in a restricted zone. Mine does not have any lockout features.

Does yours lose power or just lock you out of no fly zones?

DJI won't just lose power in no fly zones, it will geo lock you out of it and it works pretty well. So when you hit the imaginary line, the drone stops in its tracks. However, when you get official FAA waivers you can submit them through DJI and then can bypass said no fly zone, I do this a lot for sanctioned jobs, like around stadiums during professional sports games for example.

If you have a drone that ignores all of that then it's not properly registered and not employing Remote ID, which is required for most drones now. People use them for illegal flights all the time but if you get busted the FAA will throw the hammer down, so I would be careful, especially right now.

I always fly with either a waiver or a LAANC request in applicable airspace, the local FAA office knows all about me and my flights.