Trump aide Hope Hicks has Covid - Update Trump Tests Positive

...and she travels with Trump.

Top Trump aide Hope Hicks tests positive for coronavirus after traveling with president to debate​

...Hicks, who has been known to spend a lot of time with Trump, had traveled with the president to the debate Tuesday night in Cleveland. She was seen not wearing a mask.

Trump, 74, himself rarely wears a mask and has mocked his Democratic rival, Joe Biden, 77, for often wearing face coverings.

The White House didn’t comment on reports that Hicks had tested positive, but a spokesman issued a statement about the administration’s Covid-19 protocols.
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Seriously...he's been tempting fate for a long time now. I'm not hoping she gave it to him, but it wouldn't surprise me at this point either.
 
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JayMysteri0 said:
Just so I grasp this, the head of the covid task force is against the plexiglass dividers? The HEAD of the covid task force? 😖

Scorched Earth sounds more & more like a necessity, with this administration.

Just saw that 'head' has given up his objections... How big of him.

What an asshole!
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It's time Biden and Harris both set some ground rules, if they can't adhere to them then nobody will blame them for refusing.
 
lizkat said:
Stephen Miller's wife already had covid-19 over the summer, she works for Pence. Guess we'll find out whether immunity lasts awhile... but I sure hope Kamala Harris won the debate commitee wrangle over putting up plexiglass dividers around Pence too, not just her. Pence didn't want them.
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Pence gave in. He didn’t have much choice.
 
lizkat said:
I was thinking Miller might be fatal for onward march of the pandemic. The virus has to move from one live host to another, but it needs to hang out with the first host for awhile to get its strength up for the leap.
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If I was writing a movie, he would be in that scene mid credits, hanging out in China directing how the virus should be made based on his recommendations.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1313621593793257475/
https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1313629899681411072/
I added this, because there aren't enough Fozzie the Bear gifs
 
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If I was writing a movie, he would be in that scene mid credits, hanging out in China directing how the virus should be made based on his recommendations.
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It's true there are a lot of truly wicked tweets out there right now about Stephen Miller. He's gonna get more attention than Trump will tonight. Uh-oh. So much for Trump's admonition to not let covid-19 dominate our lives. He forgot to add "... or your social media feeds." Oops.
 
This is why Pence couldn't say no to a plexiglass around him at the debate tomorrow. The news was getting around all day while the commission and the Pence and Harris reps were arguing over the matter. Absurd. F§ck Pence anyway, he had to know he may have been exposed and could be contagious right now.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1313616485395251202/

And really looking at all these guys who spent days in a room prepping Trump for the 1st prez debate, and so many including Miller now positive, and Miller's wife's workplace proximity to Pence... seems to me like Harris should say hell no and cancel, how is it worth it. We know now that aerosolized covid can circulate in the air indoors too.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1312241059427221505/
 
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And now this...

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1313668130221285376/

and what i think of that

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JayMysteri0 said:
Footage of the WH doing their contact tracing...
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Well exactly. The families of WH staffers must be livid by now; it's clear the casual attitudes by Trump and some of his aides towards safety protocols have made the place a dangerous work site.

I don't get why the aides and inner circle of top level advisors, cabinet heads etc. still let Trump boss them around when it comes to covid_19 issues. It's not just public health now, and I get it that their politics gives them a blind eye on some of his messaging. But a bunch of them have been sickened themselves now, yet they're still reluctant to call in GOP leaders and medics and sit him down (maybe w/ some family like Ivanka) and say "NO MORE, you're ill, Pence will step in until you're able to resume working,"

What the hell is the 25A for anyway. Is this guy actually running the government on steroids and a not-for-public-use cocktail of antivirals? Meanwhile the schmuck walks around the WH creating potential hot spots of infection for more innocent WH workers to encounter. It's not like he has ever seemed to give a damn about them, but to show he doesn't care even now is quite a tell as to his core values: he has none.
 
lizkat said:
Well exactly. The families of WH staffers must be livid by now; it's clear the casual attitudes by Trump and some of his aides towards safety protocols have made the place a dangerous work site.

I don't get why the aides and inner circle of top level advisors, cabinet heads etc. still let Trump boss them around when it comes to covid_19 issues. It's not just public health now, and I get it that their politics gives them a blind eye on some of his messaging. But a bunch of them have been sickened themselves now, yet they're still reluctant to call in GOP leaders and medics and sit him down (maybe w/ some family like Ivanka) and say "NO MORE, you're ill, Pence will step in until you're able to resume working,"

What the hell is the 25A for anyway. Is this guy actually running the government on steroids and a not-for-public-use cocktail of antivirals? Meanwhile the schmuck walks around the WH creating potential hot spots of infection for more innocent WH workers to encounter. It's not like he has ever seemed to give a damn about them, but to show he doesn't care even now is quite a tell as to his core values: he has none.
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https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1313952940260876288/
 
lizkat said:
Well exactly. The families of WH staffers must be livid by now; it's clear the casual attitudes by Trump and some of his aides towards safety protocols have made the place a dangerous work site.

I don't get why the aides and inner circle of top level advisors, cabinet heads etc. still let Trump boss them around when it comes to covid_19 issues. It's not just public health now, and I get it that their politics gives them a blind eye on some of his messaging. But a bunch of them have been sickened themselves now, yet they're still reluctant to call in GOP leaders and medics and sit him down (maybe w/ some family like Ivanka) and say "NO MORE, you're ill, Pence will step in until you're able to resume working,"

What the hell is the 25A for anyway. Is this guy actually running the government on steroids and a not-for-public-use cocktail of antivirals? Meanwhile the schmuck walks around the WH creating potential hot spots of infection for more innocent WH workers to encounter. It's not like he has ever seemed to give a damn about them, but to show he doesn't care even now is quite a tell as to his core values: he has none.
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Because that would adversely affect the cash out they took the job for:
Analyst jobs at Fox or lobbyist positions in DC.
 
lizkat said:
Well exactly. The families of WH staffers must be livid by now; it's clear the casual attitudes by Trump and some of his aides towards safety protocols have made the place a dangerous work site.

I don't get why the aides and inner circle of top level advisors, cabinet heads etc. still let Trump boss them around when it comes to covid_19 issues. It's not just public health now, and I get it that their politics gives them a blind eye on some of his messaging. But a bunch of them have been sickened themselves now, yet they're still reluctant to call in GOP leaders and medics and sit him down (maybe w/ some family like Ivanka) and say "NO MORE, you're ill, Pence will step in until you're able to resume working,"

What the hell is the 25A for anyway. Is this guy actually running the government on steroids and a not-for-public-use cocktail of antivirals? Meanwhile the schmuck walks around the WH creating potential hot spots of infection for more innocent WH workers to encounter. It's not like he has ever seemed to give a damn about them, but to show he doesn't care even now is quite a tell as to his core values: he has none.
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One more for you...

 
I'll paste it here. I've never seen such a piece in NEJM:

Why has the United States handled this pandemic so badly? We have failed at almost every step. We had ample warning, but when the disease first arrived, we were incapable of testing effectively and couldn’t provide even the most basic personal protective equipment to health care workers and the general public. And we continue to be way behind the curve in testing. While the absolute numbers of tests have increased substantially, the more useful metric is the number of tests performed per infected person, a rate that puts us far down the international list, below such places as Kazakhstan, Zimbabwe, and Ethiopia, countries that cannot boast the biomedical infrastructure or the manufacturing capacity that we have.2 Moreover, a lack of emphasis on developing capacity has meant that U.S. test results are often long delayed, rendering the results useless for disease control.

Although we tend to focus on technology, most of the interventions that have large effects are not complicated. The United States instituted quarantine and isolation measures late and inconsistently, often without any effort to enforce them, after the disease had spread substantially in many communities. Our rules on social distancing have in many places been lackadaisical at best, with loosening of restrictions long before adequate disease control had been achieved. And in much of the country, people simply don’t wear masks, largely because our leaders have stated outright that masks are political tools rather than effective infection control measures. The government has appropriately invested heavily in vaccine development, but its rhetoric has politicized the development process and led to growing public distrust.

The United States came into this crisis with enormous advantages. Along with tremendous manufacturing capacity, we have a biomedical research system that is the envy of the world. We have enormous expertise in public health, health policy, and basic biology and have consistently been able to turn that expertise into new therapies and preventive measures. And much of that national expertise resides in government institutions. Yet our leaders have largely chosen to ignore and even denigrate experts.

The response of our nation’s leaders has been consistently inadequate. The federal government has largely abandoned disease control to the states. Governors have varied in their responses, not so much by party as by competence. But whatever their competence, governors do not have the tools that Washington controls. Instead of using those tools, the federal government has undermined them. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which was the world’s leading disease response organization, has been eviscerated and has suffered dramatic testing and policy failures. The National Institutes of Health have played a key role in vaccine development but have been excluded from much crucial government decision making. And the Food and Drug Administration has been shamefully politicized,3 appearing to respond to pressure from the administration rather than scientific evidence. Our current leaders have undercut trust in science and in government,4 causing damage that will certainly outlast them. Instead of relying on expertise, the administration has turned to uninformed “opinion leaders” and charlatans who obscure the truth and facilitate the promulgation of outright lies.

Let’s be clear about the cost of not taking even simple measures. An outbreak that has disproportionately affected communities of color has exacerbated the tensions associated with inequality. Many of our children are missing school at critical times in their social and intellectual development. The hard work of health care professionals, who have put their lives on the line, has not been used wisely. Our current leadership takes pride in the economy, but while most of the world has opened up to some extent, the United States still suffers from disease rates that have prevented many businesses from reopening, with a resultant loss of hundreds of billions of dollars and millions of jobs. And more than 200,000 Americans have died. Some deaths from Covid-19 were unavoidable. But, although it is impossible to project the precise number of additional American lives lost because of weak and inappropriate government policies, it is at least in the tens of thousands in a pandemic that has already killed more Americans than any conflict since World War II.

Anyone else who recklessly squandered lives and money in this way would be suffering legal consequences. Our leaders have largely claimed immunity for their actions. But this election gives us the power to render judgment. Reasonable people will certainly disagree about the many political positions taken by candidates. But truth is neither liberal nor conservative. When it comes to the response to the largest public health crisis of our time, our current political leaders have demonstrated that they are dangerously incompetent. We should not abet them and enable the deaths of thousands more Americans by allowing them to keep their jobs.

 

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