bunnspecial
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Hopped in the MKZ on Monday evening to run over to the in-laws house, and I'm rewarded with the battery icon popping up in the message center.
Call in my regrets for not coming(my wife was at work) and instead get to work diagnosing. Everything's acting like a bad alternator-in particular voltage under 12V running-so I ordered one from Autozone for next day pick-up. I also tossed a charger on the battery just to be safe.
I was advised that due to how Ford alternators work, sometimes a bad battery can act like a bad alternator. I went out with the battery fresh off the charger yesterday morning, started the car, and sure enough with "goosing" the throttle I saw voltage shoot up to ~14V on the voltmeter and the charge light go out on the dash. I drive up to Autozone and they stick their tester on it and say the alternator is fine and the battery looks iffy, so I return the alternator and buy a battery.
About halfway home, the battery light comes back on and nothing I can do gets the alternator back to life...so alternator time.
In general, I really dislike working on front wheel drive vehicles, and especially V engine ones. I remember the mechanic always fussing the worst about my dad's Continental with the DOHC Modular V8. Some things on the MKZ aren't terrible(I was surprised at the plugs, for example, even if I did have to pull the intake plenum) but others well, aren't great.
The alternator is tucked on the front side of the engine just under the valve cover-in theory not as bad as it could be but in practice, miserable. One bolt has to be accessed from up top and another from the wheel well, and of course removing/installing the serpentine belt is best done from the wheel well.
The bigger issue, though, is getting the darn thing out. There are two schools of thought-one is remove the cooling fans and the other is drain and remove the AC compressor. The latter, of course, requires draining and refilling refrigerant, plus the potential for other issues when the system is opened. I opted for the radiator fan removal.
I should also add that I can't find a video on Youtube on the full procedure on my year(or year range) MKZ. There's a decent one on a 2010 Fusion, which is similar, but I also didn't like that it dropped the sub frame to get enough clearance to get it out through the wheel well. Also, it's not 100% transferable as the 2010 Fusion had electric power steering and the MKZ used hydraulic. This was a new one to me, though-it actually doesn't change too much as the power steering isn't driven off the serpentine belt but rather a separate "stretch to fit" one time use belt. I'm debating too if I change both while I'm down here, although access isn't terrible and the serpentine belt is in relatively good shape.
So, here I am after working on and off yesterday. When I took this photo, I hadn't removed the serpentine belt yet as I was waiting on the tool to arrive(hooray for Amazon same-day delivery). I honestly don't do that many serpentine belts and I've always-on rear wheel drive cars-had zero issue using a breaker bar or even ratchet. Of course that's asking too much-there's not enough room for that. I spent $60 on the deluxe model "every conceivable application" serpentine belt tool, and I have to say I don't regret buying it as it's NICE(plus between it ratcheting and the way it fits together, there's about 100 different angles it can be assembled into for maximum leverage in confined spaces). That got it off with no trouble, though. I also look like I got into a fight with a cat.
Now, back to it later today. The next obstacle is the alternator bolts themselves. I worked on the lower one for a little while, and I can JUST get a socket on it but not much else. I may be swinging by Harbor Freight and getting a 3/8" drive impact wrench(or maybe even 1/4" for size reasons). Of course it's humid enough now, though, that even though I've been pretty light on air useage, I had to drain the compressor mid-way through the day yesterday as there was enoguh water in the tank that my moisture traps weren't catching it and my impact wrench was having trouble with lugnuts that I pulled off with a normal 12" ratchet...
Call in my regrets for not coming(my wife was at work) and instead get to work diagnosing. Everything's acting like a bad alternator-in particular voltage under 12V running-so I ordered one from Autozone for next day pick-up. I also tossed a charger on the battery just to be safe.
I was advised that due to how Ford alternators work, sometimes a bad battery can act like a bad alternator. I went out with the battery fresh off the charger yesterday morning, started the car, and sure enough with "goosing" the throttle I saw voltage shoot up to ~14V on the voltmeter and the charge light go out on the dash. I drive up to Autozone and they stick their tester on it and say the alternator is fine and the battery looks iffy, so I return the alternator and buy a battery.
About halfway home, the battery light comes back on and nothing I can do gets the alternator back to life...so alternator time.
In general, I really dislike working on front wheel drive vehicles, and especially V engine ones. I remember the mechanic always fussing the worst about my dad's Continental with the DOHC Modular V8. Some things on the MKZ aren't terrible(I was surprised at the plugs, for example, even if I did have to pull the intake plenum) but others well, aren't great.
The alternator is tucked on the front side of the engine just under the valve cover-in theory not as bad as it could be but in practice, miserable. One bolt has to be accessed from up top and another from the wheel well, and of course removing/installing the serpentine belt is best done from the wheel well.
The bigger issue, though, is getting the darn thing out. There are two schools of thought-one is remove the cooling fans and the other is drain and remove the AC compressor. The latter, of course, requires draining and refilling refrigerant, plus the potential for other issues when the system is opened. I opted for the radiator fan removal.
I should also add that I can't find a video on Youtube on the full procedure on my year(or year range) MKZ. There's a decent one on a 2010 Fusion, which is similar, but I also didn't like that it dropped the sub frame to get enough clearance to get it out through the wheel well. Also, it's not 100% transferable as the 2010 Fusion had electric power steering and the MKZ used hydraulic. This was a new one to me, though-it actually doesn't change too much as the power steering isn't driven off the serpentine belt but rather a separate "stretch to fit" one time use belt. I'm debating too if I change both while I'm down here, although access isn't terrible and the serpentine belt is in relatively good shape.
So, here I am after working on and off yesterday. When I took this photo, I hadn't removed the serpentine belt yet as I was waiting on the tool to arrive(hooray for Amazon same-day delivery). I honestly don't do that many serpentine belts and I've always-on rear wheel drive cars-had zero issue using a breaker bar or even ratchet. Of course that's asking too much-there's not enough room for that. I spent $60 on the deluxe model "every conceivable application" serpentine belt tool, and I have to say I don't regret buying it as it's NICE(plus between it ratcheting and the way it fits together, there's about 100 different angles it can be assembled into for maximum leverage in confined spaces). That got it off with no trouble, though. I also look like I got into a fight with a cat.
Now, back to it later today. The next obstacle is the alternator bolts themselves. I worked on the lower one for a little while, and I can JUST get a socket on it but not much else. I may be swinging by Harbor Freight and getting a 3/8" drive impact wrench(or maybe even 1/4" for size reasons). Of course it's humid enough now, though, that even though I've been pretty light on air useage, I had to drain the compressor mid-way through the day yesterday as there was enoguh water in the tank that my moisture traps weren't catching it and my impact wrench was having trouble with lugnuts that I pulled off with a normal 12" ratchet...