WWDC 2025

[diamond.g]

Seems interesting that Apple is willing to walk back the separate interface for separate input methods ethos they had during the Windows 8 days. I wonder how long until iPad OS is basically a convertible OS like Win8 was.

 

[Cmaier]

Having the menu bar only with an external keyboard kind of sucks. Would love if that was a standard iPad interface element.

I don’t know. I always have my ipad in its keyboard case, and i’m not sure how great a menu bar would be when no keyboard/trackpad is attached. I do think it’s probably a good thing that Apple may be considering that different user interfaces make sense when you have a keyboard/mouse pointer and when you don’t.

 

[thenewperson]

and i’m not sure how great a menu bar would be when no keyboard/trackpad is attached

Pretty good I feel. The menu bar as it is now (at least with ASi Macs) is pretty spacious so it should work well with touch. The status bar already exists on iPads so a constant bar at the top isn’t some foreign thing. And menus exist and are used throughout the system so that’s work well enough.

I could see an issue where apps decide to forgo placing buttons right in the app and instead relegating so much to the menu bar but based on macOS so far it seems like the opposite problem shows up with (mostly) non-native apps instead.