17 Year-old Blue Lives Matter Activist with AR 15 Charged With Murder After Two Killed at Protest

[GermanSuplex]

Out of the gate his biggest advantage. No way in hell a black man under these exact same circumstances would have ever survived this judge, jury or trial.

White = FInd a loophole to acquit.
Black = Find a loophole to convict.

Not even a charge for walking around armed at 17. I guess technically he was hunting, so maybe it wasn't off the mark.

Not being convicted of intentional homicide is one thing, but to face no consequences at all? How many people have been locked up for decades for less egregious acts? Or no act at all?

 

[Renzatic]

I don't know, looking at that video it showed that he was the aggressor IMO, looking for the fight by jumping into the middle of it. Very much the same way Zimmerman was looking for it with Trayvon Martin. These guys all think they're tough shit until they start getting their asses kicked, then fire their weapons and claim self defense.

It does seem like the country's slowly becoming a field day for every microdicked fuckwit with more guns than brains.

Zimmerman's case fell through because the prosecution wanted to push for Murder Two, which was nearly impossible given the evidence on hand. They couldn't prove that he fully intended to murder Martin the moment he saw him that night. There were no living witnesses to the crime beyond Zimmerman himself, no evidence of outright murderous intent, thus no real case for the prosecution to push a murder charge with.

If he were charged with Voluntary Manslaughter, he'd still be jail today. That's easy to prove. He likely didn't intend to kill Martin, but he had no reason to stop him on the street, and his aggressive attitude and general recklessness is what lead to the shooting.

For Rittenhouse, yeah, he went out looking for trouble, and it ended up finding him. Though armed, he wasn't outright antagonizing anyone, and he ended up being jumped first, giving the little asshole every right to defend himself. Everything that happened thereafter was one long cascade of bad decisions that happened to play out in his favor.

 

[rdrr]

Only a couple of points.

1) If you were surprised at the Rittenhouse verdict, you might want to find a new news source. Much of the reporting was flat out incorrect.

2) The McMichael's should be found guilty and executed out in front of the courthouse 15 minutes after the verdict is read.

#2 disagree... They need to be chased down until exhausted and then executed.

 

[SuperMatt]

1) If you were surprised at the Rittenhouse verdict, you might want to find a new news source. Much of the reporting was flat out incorrect.

I’m not surprised. But what are these many incorrect reports of which you speak?

 

[Renzatic]

The state prosecutes. The state provides the judge. Both of these state-provided entities made sure Rittenhouse would walk. The judge was obviously biased towards the defense in words and actions. The prosecution was incompetent to a level where it seemed like their intent was to lose.

Both judge and prosecution are VERY capable of convicting criminals… when they want to.

I won't deny this, because it did seem the state was out to purposefully sabotage its own case at times.

The fact is, though, Rittenhouse is free. He's protected by double jeopardy. If it is found out the state did game the system for his benefit, it won't be him that goes to jail.

 

[Herdfan]

Basically my thoughts. The prosecution failed to prove that Rittenhouse was the aggressor, the only situation in which he could've been found guilty.

Could he have been guilty on some of the non-homicide charges? Perhaps. But everything I've seen about this case indicates to me that it was self-defense. That does not mean he should've been there.

The problem is this case is more about what "side" you're on than it is about the facts. Anyone saying he's a hero or pure evil is not really worth listening to.

Not picking on you here for sure, but when an illegal commits a crime and the right says "well if he wasn't here........" we get trashed.

But I do agree, he should not have been there. Of he really was there to protect the car dealership, then stay AT the car dealership.

 

[Renzatic]

Not picking on you here for sure, but when an illegal commits a crime and the right says "well if he wasn't here........" we get trashed.

Probably because that statement indirectly pushes the blame on an entire group of people, while Kyle Rittenhouse is just one person.

 

[SuperMatt]

Not picking on you here for sure, but when an illegal commits a crime and the right says "well if he wasn't here........" we get trashed.

But I do agree, he should not have been there. Of he really was there to protect the car dealership, then stay AT the car dealership.

A terrible analogy accompanied by a dehumanizing referral to a human being. Referring to a person as “an illegal” is disgusting. Even the dictionary points out that such usage of the term is offensive.

Definition of ILLEGAL

not according to or authorized by law : unlawful, illicit; also : not sanctioned by official rules (as of a game)… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[User.168]

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[Herdfan]

I’m not surprised. But what are these many incorrect reports of which you speak?

One for example is why he was in Kenosha.

Most of the news media wanted you to think this 17-year old just decided on his own to go to Kenosha to cause trouble. They completely ignored the fact that his father lived there and that he worked for the county as a lifeguard.

 

[Herdfan]

I won't deny this, because it did seem the state was out to purposefully sabotage its own case at times.

Well, when you rush the charges and end up overcharging someone, what else can you do?

 

[User.168]

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[fooferdoggie]

Not surprised. I'm sure he'll have a bright future in the Republican party, or maybe the Proud Boys or their ilk. He'll also serve as a role model to others who want to do the same at protests.

or he will become the next George Zimmerman because he is not exactly stable material. sad even the laws he absolutely broke he got away with good job judge.

 

[Herdfan]

A terrible analogy accompanied by a dehumanizing referral to a human being. Referring to a person as “an illegal” is disgusting. Even the dictionary points out that such usage of the term is offensive.

Definition of ILLEGAL

not according to or authorized by law : unlawful, illicit; also : not sanctioned by official rules (as of a game)… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

"Sometimes" offensive.

It may be offensive to you and that's fine, but it is still accurate.

 

[SuperMatt]

"Sometimes" offensive.

It may be offensive to you and that's fine, but it is still accurate.

Calling a human being “an illegal” is not offensive if you are a bigot. To everybody else, it’s offensive. Meanwhile, your language which is offensive to all except the bigots among us is derailing the thread.

 

[rdrr]

"Sometimes" offensive.

It may be offensive to you and that's fine, but it is still accurate.

Not bashing you for using the term. I think people are too quick to get on their soapboxes. However to educate, yes someone can be illegally here, or have performed an illegal act to get into this country. What they are trying to express, is labeling a person "illegal" is distasteful because you are stating that they shouldn't exist. Use it to describe an act, do not use it to classify a person.

 

[Thomas Veil]

Rittenhouse, after the verdict was read:

 

[SuperMatt]

One for example is why he was in Kenosha.

Most of the news media wanted you to think this 17-year old just decided on his own to go to Kenosha to cause trouble. They completely ignored the fact that his father lived there and that he worked for the county as a lifeguard.

Provide sources, and I do mean multiple, since you said ”much” of the reporting was incorrect.

 

[GermanSuplex]

One for example is why he was in Kenosha.

Most of the news media wanted you to think this 17-year old just decided on his own to go to Kenosha to cause trouble. They completely ignored the fact that his father lived there and that he worked for the county as a lifeguard.

He didn't go to Kenosha to visit his father. I have family out of town. If a riot happens there and I go wandering the streets with a rifle, its not because I'm visiting family. Republicans are supposed to be the "call it like it is" party, but if that was the case, we all would admit why he went to Kenosha. Let's be real here.

 

[Joe]

He’ll be in trouble again. He’s a stupid kid. Next time he may not be so lucky.