AirPods Max 2

[RockRock8]

but it's probably true that he's been the most reliable leaker on average

You aren't a good leaker if you get major stuff wrong all the time, and the stuff you get right are educated guesses that even lowly readers can make.

You aren't a good journalist if you're willing to post bullshit you know is untrue, especially if it raked in extra money like you mentioned in another comment

He's a bad leaker and a bad journalist.

 

[RockRock8]

Back to the AirPods Max. It seems people really hate the case. I actually like the case but I also like the Magic Mouse more than anything Logitech makes and don't mind the charging port which is apparently a hot take.

I like the case too and it's refreshing they did a different take on it, so to speak. There's a case to be made for a hard shell case, so it's there if you want to buy one from someone else. But hard shell cases usually cover the fact that the plastic and rubber junk they protect are... junk. AirPods are high quality, and like I said I get wanting to protect them, but they're more sturdy than most headphones. most People just hate on stuff like the case and mouse because other people hate on it. I also don't mind the port too

 

[swk9]

I've had number other noise cancellation headphones and kept the AirPods Max and the Sonos Ace out of them mostly because I liked their build quality and the fit along with the sound. However as I've said I really wish there was a better way to customize the sound.

most People just hate on stuff like the case and mouse because other people hate on it.

This is definitely true and the Magic Mouse 2 might be my favorite example of such because I personally went through it and have evidence.

There was a Logitech thin touch mouse I bought more than a decade ago, the T630. It had the same bottom charging port location before the Magic Mouse 2. If you read the reviews of the Logitech mouse, there was barely any mention of changing port location. The reviewers were fine with the port being on the bottom. It had its problems, mostly because of the Logitech software, but I thought it was a fine portable mouse and I liked the touch scrolling.

So after years of using the Logitech mouse, it was perplexing to me the same charging port location suddenly became a design faux pas with the Magic Mouse. Everyone was rushing in to say how terrible it was and what it meant for Apple's previously respected design team because it was certainly a sign of things going wrong. How could any self-respecting computer user find this acceptable? If you thought that was a good design, you were an Apple fan deeply in the cult. Everyone was in agreement that it was a symbol of Apple's downfall since Jobs' passing.

Meanwhile my Logitech T630 was chugging along, not being a symbol of Logitech's downfall. Then I found a review of the Logitech T630 on a blog that was written after the Magic Mouse 2, and the reviewer hated the bottom charging port, wondering out loud why Logitech had to copy such a terrible design. Again, before the Magic Mouse 2, not a single reviewer thought it was that bad.

 

[mr_roboto]

On the other hand, the bottom charge port is in fact silly, and should in fact be criticized.

The magic mouse would be a far better product with the USB type C port on the front, allowing you to plug it in and use it as a wired mouse. Yes, it wouldn't look as sleek, but the mice have long been examples of how Apple sometimes sacrifices too much at the altar of aesthetics.

See also: Liquid Glass.

Also, Apple did plenty of this nonsense under Jobs too. He was usually better at nipping it in the bud than Tim Cook's Apple, but he let some real stinkers through. See for example: the notorious hockey puck mouse.

 

[DT]

Sorry, hahahaha, I just have to laugh at podcaster-blogger goons arguing with other podcaster-blogger goons about who leaked what, when and how ...

On the other hand, the bottom charge port is in fact silly, and should in fact be criticized.

The magic mouse would be a far better product with the USB type C port on the front, allowing you to plug it in and use it as a wired mouse. Yes, it wouldn't look as sleek, but the mice have long been examples of how Apple sometimes sacrifices too much at the altar of aesthetics.

Yeah, that was a colossal misfire. I still have a 1st Gen MM on my Mini (Intel baby!) so it's an easy and quick battery swap (when needed, it mostly just idles for a few non-critical services ...), but I can't imagine any required peripheral being designed such that it can't be either 1) instantly "re-juiced", or B) usable wired (while recharging). Like my current Winders™ setup I use Logitech, G915X wireless KB (but wires up via USB-C to charge and continues working) and a G305 mouse (single AA battery)

 

[RockRock8]

I've had number other noise cancellation headphones and kept the AirPods Max and the Sonos Ace out of them mostly because I liked their build quality and the fit along with the sound. However as I've said I really wish there was a better way to customize the sound.


This is definitely true and the Magic Mouse 2 might be my favorite example of such because I personally went through it and have evidence.

There was a Logitech thin touch mouse I bought more than a decade ago, the T630. It had the same bottom charging port location before the Magic Mouse 2. If you read the reviews of the Logitech mouse, there was barely any mention of changing port location. The reviewers were fine with the port being on the bottom. It had its problems, mostly because of the Logitech software, but I thought it was a fine portable mouse and I liked the touch scrolling.

So after years of using the Logitech mouse, it was perplexing to me the same charging port location suddenly became a design faux pas with the Magic Mouse. Everyone was rushing in to say how terrible it was and what it meant for Apple's previously respected design team because it was certainly a sign of things going wrong. How could any self-respecting computer user find this acceptable? If you thought that was a good design, you were an Apple fan deeply in the cult. Everyone was in agreement that it was a symbol of Apple's downfall since Jobs' passing.

Meanwhile my Logitech T630 was chugging along, not being a symbol of Logitech's downfall. Then I found a review of the Logitech T630 on a blog that was written after the Magic Mouse 2, and the reviewer hated the bottom charging port, wondering out loud why Logitech had to copy such a terrible design. Again, before the Magic Mouse 2, not a single reviewer thought it was that bad.

Fully agreed with your assessment. There's a place for dedicated wired mice, but this is not that. It's built around full wireless. How long is your battery life?

 

[swk9]

I still disagree with others and would say I'm pretty fine with the Magic Mouse having a bottom charging port, just as I was fine with it on the Logitech mouse before it. I'd rather have the a sloping down angle and large slick touch surface than having a port sticking out.

My guess is that Apple did it this way because the older Magic Mouse had the same design. But again, when my Logitech mouse had the same problem none of the reviewers was much bothered by it. I still find it really interesting how quickly that came a cardinal sin. Maybe Apple will add it in the next version just because this was such a big deal.

Going back to the AirPods Max, I wonder if Apple would ever make a smaller pair of headphones similar to the Beats Solo. There's surely some demand for a more portable pair but is it big enough for Apple? Speaking of the Beats products, how are they being seen and developed internally I wonder.

 

[RockRock8]

I still disagree with others and would say I'm pretty fine with the Magic Mouse having a bottom charging port, just as I was fine with it on the Logitech mouse before it. I'd rather have the a sloping down angle and large slick touch surface than having a port sticking out.

My guess is that Apple did it this way because the older Magic Mouse had the same design. But again, when my Logitech mouse had the same problem none of the reviewers was much bothered by it. I still find it really interesting how quickly that came a cardinal sin. Maybe Apple will add it in the next version just because this was such a big deal.

Going back to the AirPods Max, I wonder if Apple would ever make a smaller pair of headphones similar to the Beats Solo. There's surely some demand for a more portable pair but is it big enough for Apple? Speaking of the Beats products, how are they being seen and developed internally I wonder.

I agree with that