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[Chew Toy McCoy]

I'm not saying it would disqualify him legally. But it could be used as an excuse not to support him. And this could come from the party, the money players, or other string pullers.

Just saying it is an excuse they can use.

It will be used for sure but I don’t think its going to move the needle or change any minds, especially if the voter looks to the right and there’s Trump looking back at them...with his own mountain of documents. If anything it will be a wash on this particular issue.

But I do think the Democrats are shooting themselves in the ass if they don't start seriously looking for a backup candidate. Currently that candidate is obvious to no one. There's plenty power hungry for it but I can't think of any who would crush it nationally.

 

[Citysnaps]

But I do think the Democrats are shooting themselves in the ass if they don't start seriously looking for a backup candidate. Currently that candidate is obvious to no one. There's plenty power hungry for it but I can't think of any who would crush it nationally.

That's been my concern for a long time. And that concern is growing daily. Time's a wasting and pretty soon it will be 2024.

Hope the DNC has a Plan B and Plan C - even better if it's coordinated with Biden. There are a number of potential candidates that can step up.

Ideally I'd like to see Biden, after giving the matter a great deal of thought, talk to a few of those potential candidates privately, and endorse one or two. To make the transition more palatable to the masses, Biden, with his decades of domestic and foreign policy wisdom, could be a senior advisor to whichever candidate rises to the top in the primary.

 

[Herdfan]

But I do think the Democrats are shooting themselves in the ass if they don't start seriously looking for a backup candidate. Currently that candidate is obvious to no one. There's plenty power hungry for it but I can't think of any who would crush it nationally.

There are a couple I would be scared of. And your Governor is at the top of the list. Sure he has some issues with "do as I say, not as I do" and you can bet there would be plenty of campaign adds highlighting this, but he is young, energetic and likeable. The question for him will be is he too progressive to collect enough delegates in Red states and that will also depend on who he is running against.

I don't think Kamala has a chance. She is just too bad at retail politics.

Same with Roy Cooper, although he could be a good VP pick to lock up NC.

Whitmer - Similar issues to Newsom in the do as I say realm and she will have to explain some of her COVID decisions.

Buttigieg - Not sure he is quite ready for prime time, but he checks a box so he will certainly have the media's support.

 

[shadow puppet]

Buttigieg - Not sure he is quite ready for prime time, but he checks a box so he will certainly have the media's support.

Kamala doesn't bother me as much as some. But as much as I loved seeing a WOC make it as VP, I don't think she will win as Pres. The press have made sure of that.

If Pete were to run, he would currently have my full support. I was very taken with him during his Presidential debates, the guy knows how to keep his cool and is quite a good orator. But I'm not sure the country will get behind a gay candidate even though it shouldn't matter what his sexual orientation is.

But I definitely want the older contingent to step down & agree with Chewy above, the Dems really need to get their shit together and start figuring out 2024. Before it's too late.

 

[Herdfan]

That's been my concern for a long time. And that concern is growing daily. Time's a wasting and pretty soon it will be 2024.

Hope the DNC has a Plan B and Plan C - even better if it's coordinated with Biden. There are a number of potential candidates that can step up.

Ideally I'd like to see Biden, after giving the matter a great deal of thought, talk to a few of those potential candidates privately, and endorse one or two. To make the transition more palatable to the masses, Biden, with his decades of domestic and foreign policy wisdom, could be a senior advisor to whichever candidate rises to the top in the primary.

Do you think Joe would go along with that? And would Jill be on board?

 

[Herdfan]

Kamala doesn't bother me as much as some.

She just can't speak to crowds. I don't know if she gets nervous or what, but that ill-timed cackling will be very off-putting to some.

And what is the story with her word salad? Do her aides really let her go out there with some of these speeches or does she get nervous and go off-script and repeat a lot of words and phrases?

 

[Eric]

There are a couple I would be scared of. And your Governor is at the top of the list. Sure he has some issues with "do as I say, not as I do" and you can bet there would be plenty of campaign adds highlighting this, but he is young, energetic and likeable. The question for him will be is he too progressive to collect enough delegates in Red states and that will also depend on who he is running against.

I don't think Kamala has a chance. She is just too bad at retail politics.

Same with Roy Cooper, although he could be a good VP pick to lock up NC.

Whitmer - Similar issues to Newsom in the do as I say realm and she will have to explain some of her COVID decisions.

Buttigieg - Not sure he is quite ready for prime time, but he checks a box so he will certainly have the media's support.

The question is how does he pass her over without causing upheaval within the Democratic party, it puts him in a real predicament. Probably the easiest thing for him to do would be to step aside and let the party work it out, then endorse who ever they decide.

 

[Citysnaps]

Do you think Joe would go along with that? And would Jill be on board?

Pure conjecture on my part... I think Biden's a decent guy and will do the right thing. No doubt he's aware of his situation and of the optics. And perhaps Jill would be an advocate of such a move.

 

[Citysnaps]

The question is how does he pass her over without causing upheaval within the Democratic party, it puts him in a real predicament. Probably the easiest thing for him to do would be to step aside and let the party work it out, then endorse who ever they decide.

I think he just needs to be frank and speak his mind on who would be the best candidate for the dems. I would trust his judgment on that decision (more so than the DNC) in a heartbeat.

 

[Herdfan]

The question is how does he pass her over without causing upheaval within the Democratic party, it puts him in a real predicament. Probably the easiest thing for him to do would be to step aside and let the party work it out, then endorse who ever they decide.

A question I am glad I don't have to come up with the answer for.

Of course, I have my own set of problems in how do we get rid of Trump. I am afraid if he loses the primary and goes 3rd party, he will hand the WH to the Dems. So the courts need to get on the ball and and put him in jail or at least disqualify him from running.

Pure conjecture on my part... I think Biden's a decent guy and will do the right thing. No doubt he's aware of his situation and of the optics. And perhaps Jill would be an advocate of such a move.

See, I see Jill as the one who pushed him into the WH this time. I think she likes being FLOTUS and won't give it up easily.

 

[Citysnaps]

Buttigieg - Not sure he is quite ready for prime time, but he checks a box so he will certainly have the media's support.

Other than being mayor of a medium sized city, it's true.

But... after listening to him being interviewed at least a half dozen times during the 2020 primary, I came away believing he was one of the most intelligent and thoughtful people I've heard in a long time. Being an ex-military officer and intelligence officer while serving in Afghanistan checks a few boxes for me.

My sense is he can rise to any challenge or occasion and shine. With the right advisors (including Biden) I think he could turn out to be an outstanding president.

 

[shadow puppet]

I think Biden's a decent guy and will do the right thing.

You beat me to it.
I also don't think Jill would have any problem with Joe stepping away. She doesn't come across power hungry to me in any way, shape or form.

 

[shadow puppet]

I love how Pete calmly and succinctly, shut down Fox News host Bret Baier when the journalist tried to grill him over bringing his husband, Chasten, on a military flight to the Netherlands in April 2022. I don't typically watch Fox News (can't stand it) but this crossed my Twitter feed when this unfolded. Since we can't direct link to a Twitter video like we used to, here's a link where you can find it.

Pete Buttigieg shuts down Fox News host over military plane story

Bret Baier tried to "grill" the transportation secretary for taking his husband on an official trip to the Invictus Games in the Netherlands in April 2022.

www.newsweek.com

 

[Roller]

I’d vote for Biden or his dog over a DeSantis or Trump, but I’d rather not see Biden run. The first and maybe the hardest step will be convincing Biden not to run, for the country’s sake.

Next, he’d have to be instrumental behind the scenes in getting people like Harris not to throw their hat in the ring. (Unfortunately, I don’t believe the country is quite ready for Buttigieg, though he’s such an impressive speaker, especially when talking calmly to the other side.) The sooner the Democrats can unite around a strong candidate, the better.

I don’t know who that will be, but I’m sure there’s someone out there who can attract support from the non-extremists on both sides, who I think/hope still make up a majority of the electorate. People want to get back to governance without the drama.

 

[Eric]

I love how Pete calmly and succinctly, shut down Fox News host Bret Baier when the journalist tried to grill him over bringing his husband, Chasten, on a military flight to the Netherlands in April 2022. I don't typically watch Fox News (can't stand it) but this crossed my Twitter feed when this unfolded. Since we can't direct link to a Twitter video like we used to, here's a link where you can find it.

Pete Buttigieg shuts down Fox News host over military plane story

Bret Baier tried to "grill" the transportation secretary for taking his husband on an official trip to the Invictus Games in the Netherlands in April 2022.

www.newsweek.com

He's always smooth and level headed while the pundits at Fox News are typically rabid and angry. I just don't get the appeal but Republicans seem to love that sort of sensationalism, never calmly discussing issues with any sort of thought or reason, it's all faux outrage. Same can be said for MSNBC at times which is why I never watch either of them. Give me NPR any day over that crap.

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

There are a couple I would be scared of. And your Governor is at the top of the list. Sure he has some issues with "do as I say, not as I do" and you can bet there would be plenty of campaign adds highlighting this, but he is young, energetic and likeable. The question for him will be is he too progressive to collect enough delegates in Red states and that will also depend on who he is running against.

I don't think Kamala has a chance. She is just too bad at retail politics.

Same with Roy Cooper, although he could be a good VP pick to lock up NC.

Whitmer - Similar issues to Newsom in the do as I say realm and she will have to explain some of her COVID decisions.

Buttigieg - Not sure he is quite ready for prime time, but he checks a box so he will certainly have the media's support.

I would think pointing to CA’s high taxes, crushing cost of living, and homeless would be bigger detractors for Newsom. I can’t speak for the entire state, but as far as the Bay Area from his time as mayor of SF to governor of the state I’ve watched the area go from economically and creatively diverse to a bunch of Elon Musk-types worshipping clones. It’s gone from fight the system to being the system, from eat the rich to nothing more nobler than being rich. It’s the definition of ignoring and demonizing the flyover states.

Buttigieg – the current state of the airline industry with him as the governmental authority. ‘Nough said.

 

[Citysnaps]

You beat me to it.
I also don't think Jill would have any problem with Joe stepping away. She doesn't come across power hungry to me in any way, shape or form.

And Jill being the intelligent person she is, no doubt realizes at their age the number of quality years they have together is possibly not that long.

Time to pass the torch, enjoy life, travel (alone - mostly), have a few speaking engagements, schmooze with friends, offer some wisdom to the new prez from time to time, and horde a few documents.

 

[shadow puppet]

Re: Newsom
Judging by California, Orange County to be precise, I don't think Newsom could pull it off.

 

[Eric]

I would think pointing to CA’s high taxes, crushing cost of living, and homeless would be bigger detractors for Newsom. I can’t speak for the entire state, but as far as the Bay Area from his time as mayor of SF to governor of the state I’ve watched the area go from economically and creatively diverse to a bunch of Elon Musk-types worshipping clones. It’s gone from fight the system to being the system, from eat the rich to nothing more nobler than being rich. It’s the definition of ignoring and demonizing the flyover states.

Buttigieg – the current state of the airline industry with him as the governmental authority. ‘Nough said.

To be fair most Californians (especially in the Bay Area) hate Elon Musk. It's also an expensive state to both live in and run, it's one of the reasons some like to go to places like Texas or FLA as they don't have all of the overhead or regulations.

The other side of that is there is only so much room to grow in the Bay Area and it's been exceeded for a long time now, so things like homelessness along with gentrification and housing are, and will continue to be, at all time highs. I don't see how pinning that on any one Governor or Mayor will change that fact. I say we focus on things like high crime rates, where politicians can actually make a difference.

 

[shadow puppet]

How's Hakim Jeffries' record? It's probably too soon to consider him running for Prez, but I do like what I've seen so far. He seems very sharp and one to keep an eye on.