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What is the frequency of map updates in case of Tesla?
What is the frequency of map updates in case of Tesla?
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6-12 months from my quick Google search. Though I imagine as FSD matures, Tesla will have to increase frequency.
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@quagmire I agree. Carplay is indeed an excuse for carmakers to not make a decent interface, but at the same time, it's also a guarantee that your infotainment system will be kept updated over the years. Musk understands that the best way to build a brand is to keep supporting the software. That's really what made Apple stand out too. That said, Tesla's navigation is 5 years behind. At this point I'm 100% used to Apple maps specifying which exact lane I need to get into, Tesla's navigation totally failed doing so in New Jersey for example. Nothing you can't overcome with a little extra attention but it's really frustrating when you're tired. Also, as I mentioned before, my BMW's nav shows buildings on zoomed in city maps and that really helps with the navigation. I could not get that on the M3. When I zoomed in, it switched to point-of-interest mode, which doesn't follow and keep the car's position in the center. So as far as I recall I had to take a longer glance at the screen to foresee where the road goes.
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I'm still on the fence about Ioniq5 and selling my I3 vs. keeping my I3 and adding an M3. I think people who are super happy with their M3s have 1 or 2 (or more) additional cars. I don't think Teslas are reliable enough to be the sole family car. To me range matters over speed and with their heat pumps, newer M3s can keep a cabin warm for like 5 days, vs. 1.5 day w/o the heatpump (per some youtube tests). Having lived in cold(er) cities, my nightmare is having a stretch of subzero (F) temps and having to choose between getting to your destination or keeping the cabin warm. So the heat pump, the range and the charging network makes M3 a pretty good choice. OTOH, Hyundai decided to only put the heat pump in the AWD version of Ioniq 5, which has like 40 miles shorter range than the RWD. So you lose all the miles you gained with the heat pump immediately... It's so frustrating, it might be a dealbreaker for me.
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No doubt there could be improvements to Tesla's nav when it comes to features. There is nothing stopping Tesla from making those changes given since they constantly update the vehicle. They just need to actually do it....
Carplay is nice don't get me wrong. Like I said, I loved it in my Camaro. Just I don't miss it given how Tesla's interface is and does get updates. Just need them to update stuff with the latest features.
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I mentioned this in another thread but I picked up this Audi A4 Avant 2.0 TDI on Saturday.
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I mentioned this in another thread but I picked up this Audi A4 Avant 2.0 TDI on Saturday.
Nice one, I wish we had more station wagons over here instead of SUVs.
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A New Brand of Sticker Shock Hits the Car Market
With vehicles in short supply, prices are skyrocketing. Last month, 82% of new-car buyers paid more than sticker price.
www.wsj.com
Interesting article about the future of the car buying. Tesla sure is turning the process on its end.
Edit: For some reason it is now paywalled.
It wasn't when I read it.
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Wagons never really caught on here, I think there was a bit of a stigma, then SUVs sort of took over at the "utility" vehicle, even though 90% of the people driving them could've just opted for a wagon (if they were available).
Funny enough, I see a ton of posts on a Tesla forum about bringing a wagon to market, basically making a wagaon-ized version of the Model 3 (including the P3D
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Nice leather trim. At least it doesn’t have that piano black interior of my golf. It attracts finger prints and dust like a rare earth magnet. Looks great when you clean it. 30 seconds later, not so much.I mentioned this in another thread but I picked up this Audi A4 Avant 2.0 TDI on Saturday.
Currently sat at the dealer waiting to finalise my first new car order.
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What kind of time frame are you looking at for delivery?
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My parents drove stations wagons for years -- I grew up with them and, yes, it's really too bad that they fell out of favor and that now we have the monster SUVs hogging roads and parking lot slots instead.
AFB, this is so exciting, it's really happening!! Before long you'll be the owner of a brand new electric car! Wheeeee!
AFB, this is so exciting, it's really happening!! Before long you'll be the owner of a brand new electric car! Wheeeee!
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You do realize the overall length of a Suburban is the same as a 1970's Olds Custom Cruiser. And a Tahoe is actually 15" shorter.
Maybe the good old days weren't so good.
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That Passat I had had the biggest boot of any car I have owned and our SUV’s are tiny compared to those sold in North America. The boot on this Audi isn’t too bad to be honest either. I’ll probably move away from an estate once the kids have left home and don’t come on holiday with us anymore.
Station wagons as you call them or estates here in Europe are really popular here. I think if I win the lottery I’d be buying an Audi RS6 Avant. All the fun of a sports car but with a boot lol.
The lack of gloss black on the interior is most welcome lol. Good luck with the purchase. I suppose it’ll be a few months before we see pics.
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Wagons never really caught on here, I think there was a bit of a stigma, then SUVs sort of took over at the "utility" vehicle, even though 90% of the people driving them could've just opted for a wagon (if they were available).
Funny enough, I see a ton of posts on a Tesla forum about bringing a wagon to market, basically making a wagaon-ized version of the Model 3 (including the P3D
To me an SUV is often times just a wagon with a bit higher roof attempting to look as if it can go off-road. But the industry certainly sold it well.
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Yes, I’m well aware of the popularity of estates/ wagons in Europe, spent some 39 years there. Especially the German brands sell lots of them. Over here you’re more likely to see a corvette than an Audi Avant [emoji1]
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A New Brand of Sticker Shock Hits the Car Market
With vehicles in short supply, prices are skyrocketing. Last month, 82% of new-car buyers paid more than sticker price.
Interesting article about the future of the car buying. Tesla sure is turning the process on its end.
Edit: For some reason it is now paywalled.
It's the worst part of the car experience, even when it's pretty good, it's still not great.
We've purchased a couple of BMWs through their web sales, and there was a still a lot of paperwork, gyrations, nothing beats the no-person-involved click-buy of the Tesla.
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Yeah, I think there are vehicles out right now, I'd more or less call a "wagon", but they usually have some other label, like CUV, or Crossover.
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Mid to end of April. Not too bad. But those 6-8 weeks will feel a lot longer!
