iOS 18 changes you’d like

[Artemis]

Eh. You don’t have to use it. And for the weirdos who like color-coordinating icons and backgrounds and such, they seem to like it. It’s also only the first beta, so maybe some more changes will come (like opting an app icon out).

I think eventually Apple will adopt something like SFSymbols for icons, and then they can do more intelligent tinting.

Yeah, I think this is fair at the end of the day, it’s optional, and I’m being hyperbolic lol. It does still feel weird to me seeing it from them even within that constraint but it’s not like the end of the world, also as you say, it’s a beta and they’re known more and more to iron this out thanks to public testers now.

(As an aside, I want to clarify I think iOS as a whole still blows Android out within apps in terms of UI particularly the moment you get to third-party anything, it’s incredible but sad. software quality is just obscene with iOS — but from a pure aesthetics pov, doing colored icons badly hurts iOS more, but again it’s optional so.)

RE: SFSymbols — I see that this is like their common vector assets for use across UIs and App Icons — you think this could improve representation if developers (and Apple) used more abstract assets like these?

Honestly the dark mode icon change has real potential even if it hurts the aesthetics or design intent for some apps. I do sort of like that if only for easing up on the eyes.

 

[Artemis]

Apple Intelligence:

Looks fine to me? it’s 15 Pro-only but it makes sense to establish a cut-off in light of RAM use for the local stuff which is the backbone, and just avoiding the mess of pissing people off altogether with bad performance and ux. M1 is supported which again makes me think a big part of this is RAM.

I) Local basics
II) + some in Apple Cloud for some tasks
III) + for general chatbot stuff with an abstracted API or whatever that Apple can replace with Gemini or Claude at any time (or even let users choose) is actually pretty smart I think.

The fact that they’re not even paying them is frankly hilarious but also demonstrates Apple still holds all the cards.

I am betting down the line they might train and offer their own, rumors are they’ve already done that and research output shows it for some pretty capable little multimodal models anyway. Though that’s a bit different tbf.

There are lots of routes they can take and so far I think it’s unsurprising they’re waiting for some smoke to clear while approaching this deliberately I guess.

 

[Yoused]

Huh. TIL iOS doesn't have "Paste and Match Style" like macOS.

Seems to me that should be the default behavior. Or, I should have a switch under "Table" to lock the format so that data pasted or dragged into the table acquires the table's formatting. Being able to lock formatting would be convenient for both versions of Numbers.

 

[Cmaier]

Yeah, I think this is fair at the end of the day, it’s optional, and I’m being hyperbolic lol. It does still feel weird to me seeing it from them even within that constraint but it’s not like the end of the world, also as you say, it’s a beta and they’re known more and more to iron this out thanks to public testers now.

(As an aside, I want to clarify I think iOS as a whole still blows Android out within apps in terms of UI particularly the moment you get to third-party anything, it’s incredible but sad. software quality is just obscene with iOS — but from a pure aesthetics pov, doing colored icons badly hurts iOS more, but again it’s optional so.)

RE: SFSymbols — I see that this is like their common vector assets for use across UIs and App Icons — you think this could improve representation if developers (and Apple) used more abstract assets like these?

Honestly the dark mode icon change has real potential even if it hurts the aesthetics or design intent for some apps. I do sort of like that if only for easing up on the eyes.

Sf symbols have features where you can specify what is printable, what isn’t, and you can actually specify some logic in there.

 

[Cmaier]

Seems to me that should be the default behavior. Or, I should have a switch under "Table" to lock the format so that data pasted or dragged into the table acquires the table's formatting. Being able to lock formatting would be convenient for both versions of Numbers.

iOS has always left it up to the app to decide. You can have multiple representations in the clipboard for the same “copy,” and the receiving app is supposed to figure out which to use and what to do with it. Receiving app can decide it or wants multiple versions of the paste command.

Ideal? No. Maybe they address it someday.

 

[Yoused]

iOS has always left it up to the app to decide.

I get that. But I am pretty orificial when it comes to my table formatting (never mind the fact that I detest Helvetica simply because it can make it difficult to distinguish between 6, 8, 9 and 0 in small sizes). I would greatly enjoy if the app decided which to use on the basis of how I told it to decide. It would even make "drag and keep format" an option.

 

[Andropov]

iOS has always left it up to the app to decide. You can have multiple representations in the clipboard for the same “copy,” and the receiving app is supposed to figure out which to use and what to do with it. Receiving app can decide it or wants multiple versions of the paste command.

Ideal? No. Maybe they address it someday.

A few months ago I had to undo a code change to add a URL to the pasteboard from a macOS's Catalyst app. I was using UIPasteboard.general.url = URL(string: "https://example.com") instead of UIPasteboard.general.string = "https://example.com". Using the former only let you paste in some apps, weirdly.

 

[Nycturne]

A few months ago I had to undo a code change to add a URL to the pasteboard from a macOS's Catalyst app. I was using UIPasteboard.general.url = URL(string: "https://example.com") instead of UIPasteboard.general.string = "https://example.com". Using the former only let you paste in some apps, weirdly.

Last time I worked with copy/paste, I had to provide a set of fallbacks and the receiving app picks the most specific form relevant to them, and so for something specific like a URL, I'd also have to provide the string form as a fallback. So we'd be doing things like: <App specific format> -> HTML -> RTF -> Plain Text.

 

[Herdfan]

I got an email from Google telling me that Android's would soon be able to be located by "Find My". I assume they means when iOS 18 drops.

 

[fooferdoggie]

I hate how SIRI keeps listening. it used to be an option now it's . like I search for a restaurant but I can't tell my wife what they are because Siri is still listening and will open them up. other things too I'm not too fond of it.

 

[Herdfan]

This will fix it. I do not have it listen for anything. If I want to use it, I press the Side Button.

 

[fooferdoggie]

This will fix it. I do not have it listen for anything. If I want to use it, I press the Side Button.

I am not talking siri popping up unasked though that's an issue sometimes) but once you use siri she stays up listening. You used to have a choice of siri keep listening or not. ok I found it you have to push the power buttin to end siri.

 

[Eric]

This will fix it. I do not have it listen for anything. If I want to use it, I press the Side Button.



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All I know is that yesterday I was talking to my buddy about him getting hip replacement surgery, didn't look anything up was just a verbal conversation, and today my wife got ads about hip replacements. It's no longer speculation, something was listening and delivered ads based on what it heard and it's upsetting.

It would've either been the iPhone or the Amazon Echo, which would bum me out because we like to use it for shopping lists and home automation all the time.

 

[Cmaier]

All I know is that yesterday I was talking to my buddy about him getting hip replacement surgery, didn't look anything up was just a verbal conversation, and today my wife got ads about hip replacements. It's no longer speculation, something was listening and delivered ads based on what it heard and it's upsetting.

It would've either been the iPhone or the Amazon Echo, which would bum me out because we like to use it for shopping lists and home automation all the time.

I used a packet sniffer once to analyze wifi signals sent by a certain device with Alexa in it. It was sending data when one wouldn’t expect it to.

I’m confident your iPhone is safe.

 

[Eric]

I used a packet sniffer once to analyze wifi signals sent by a certain device with Alexa in it. It was sending data when one wouldn’t expect it to.

I’m confident your iPhone is safe.

I assume the same and have just muted all the echos in my house, my wife isn't too happy about it but we'll just unmute when we have something to say. At first I didn't think it was such a big deal but this time it felt like a real violation for some reason. What people say and do in their home should be off limits and it hurts the company's credibility when they abuse it. I trust Apple, but to be safe I disabled my mic for any apps I don't use as well.

 

[Katbel]

I used a packet sniffer once to analyze wifi signals sent by a certain device with Alexa in it. It was sending data when one wouldn’t expect it to.

I’m confident your iPhone is safe.

Thanks for pointing it out really hope so. Lately I don't trust Apple as much as I used to, years ago.

 

[KingOfPain]

I used a packet sniffer once to analyze wifi signals sent by a certain device with Alexa in it. It was sending data when one wouldn’t expect it to.

My guess would also have been on Alexa.
The reason I replaced my old Fire TV with an Apple TV was that the new Fire TV doesn't have the mircophone in the remote as the old one, but rather in the device itself. And I'm not really keen on having bugs in my home.

I had something weirdly similar happen at least once, after a discussion with someone who has a Samsung phone.

 

[Yoused]

Well, blow me down, I did not expect this. I bought a USB A(f)<->C(m) cable for a particular use. I decided to test with an old keychain-style SD reader, and used it to move a bunch of old pictures onto a MBA. Then, just to see what would happen, I plugged it into an iPad Mini, and the damn thing just mounted, just like that. Never tried that before because I never thought it was possible (well, and I only had Lightning iPads before, so I never tried to find this kind of adapter).

So, I do not want them to add this to iOS18, because it is already there.

 

[Herdfan]

All I know is that yesterday I was talking to my buddy about him getting hip replacement surgery, didn't look anything up was just a verbal conversation, and today my wife got ads about hip replacements. It's no longer speculation, something was listening and delivered ads based on what it heard and it's upsetting.

There is a comedian who joked he never searches Google anymore. He just talks about something and knows it will show up in his feed.