Sept 2025 Apple iPhone Event

Texted my son earlier and reminded him too update to iOS 26. He said, eh...my new phone comes on Friday. LOL This will be the first time in years that we've had the same generation.

Oh, and he got the orange pro.
 
Alli said:
Texted my son earlier and reminded him too update to iOS 26. He said, eh...my new phone comes on Friday. LOL This will be the first time in years that we've had the same generation.

Oh, and he got the orange pro.
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It's out? My iPhone 15 Pro Max only shows an available update to iOS 18.7. Also, if 26 is the latest update WTF happened to 19 through 25?

Edit: See it at the very bottom now but had to scroll down all the way down.
 
Eric said:
It's out? My iPhone 15 Pro Max only shows an available update to iOS 18.7. Also, if 26 is the latest update WTF happened to 19 through 25?

Edit: See it at the very bottom now but had to scroll down all the way down.
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They switched to “years” for all apple operating systems. So MacOS 26, iOS 26, iPadOS 26, etc.
 
Holy hell, love iOS26 in the variants I've seen so far: my iPhone 15PM, my Watch 10, the two AppleTVs (not sure if the ladies will even bother with new phones inbound, or if it's needed for a smooth transfer).

And the updates to Car Play are outstanding.

Hahahaha, I updated in the hotel, we were down in Orlando seeing Layfey (and Suki), incredible show.
 
leman said:
They were quite useful as it’s impossible to achieve perfect ALU utilization for matrix multiplication without using the matmul intrinsics. So id be surprised if GB6 does not use them.
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MLX will require code changes to make use of the neural accelerators, so I doubt GB is using them, or otherwise not optimally.

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dada_dave said:
I’m not sure, GB should be using CoreML, is CoreML using MLX under the hood?
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CoreML does not use MLX. One reason I can imagine why a recompile is needed for CoreML to use the MXU units is if there is a subtle behavior change. Maybe they operate using a different precision or something like that? It’s really hard to say. But Apple is known to select different behavior based on the linked SDK.
 
dada_dave said:
I’m not sure, GB should be using CoreML, is CoreML using MLX under the hood?
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Oh right GB uses CoreML 🤦‍♂️

No, it doesn’t use MLX, though my point was that a Metal kernel would require changes. Not sure if CoreML JiT compiles the kernels or not. If not, a recompile would be necessary, and if so, a recompile might still be needed.
 
Non-technical CNBC clip covering Neural Accelerators, N1 and C1X. Pretty interesting. I think I’ve seen some speculation that the Neural Accelerators are not matmul additions to the gpu cores. This clip seems to confirm that they are in fact that.
 
Alli said:
Day three with my new 17 Pro Max. I’m sitting out at the pool when it suddenly hits me I haven’t had to turn the phone, or put my hand up for shade. And it’s bright out here!
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This is amazing!
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Any other thoughts about the new iPhone Pro MAX? I am still anxiously waiting for mine...

Also, nice pool, and I am left wondering why I wasn't invited over. :ROFLMAO:
 
rdrr said:
Any other thoughts about the new iPhone Pro MAX? I am still anxiously waiting for mine...

Also, nice pool, and I am left wondering why I wasn't invited over. :ROFLMAO:
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The Picture in Picture for zoom framing is nice (coming from a 14 Pro). The battery life is crazy as well.
 
rdrr said:
Any other thoughts about the new iPhone Pro MAX? I am still anxiously waiting for mine...

Also, nice pool, and I am left wondering why I wasn't invited over. :ROFLMAO:
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It feels good. Different from periods phones.

Standing invite to the pool to all my techboards buddies.
 
I have a suspicion why we don't see any performance improvements in the iPhone 17 machine learning tests. The new Metal tensor APIs appear to be completely broken right now, basic stuff does not work, and the documentation does not correspond to the actual API. I don't have the new iPhone yet but simplest things like loading tensor data does nothing. I have a suspicion that they shipped an incomplete implementation and are being quiet about it.
 
Definitely some weird shit happening with iOS Safari involving filling out fields on various sites. Click in the field and, although what you type is correctly populating the field, you can’t SEE the field so you’re typing blind. To see what you’ve typed, hit the checkmark. Now you can see the field but your keyboard is gone. Can’t be right.
 
leman said:
I have a suspicion why we don't see any performance improvements in the iPhone 17 machine learning tests. The new Metal tensor APIs appear to be completely broken right now, basic stuff does not work, and the documentation does not correspond to the actual API. I don't have the new iPhone yet but simplest things like loading tensor data does nothing. I have a suspicion that they shipped an incomplete implementation and are being quiet about it.
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Do you have any code that you can share? It’d be interesting to play around with it.
 
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