Trump aide Hope Hicks has Covid - Update Trump Tests Positive

...and she travels with Trump.

Top Trump aide Hope Hicks tests positive for coronavirus after traveling with president to debate​

...Hicks, who has been known to spend a lot of time with Trump, had traveled with the president to the debate Tuesday night in Cleveland. She was seen not wearing a mask.

Trump, 74, himself rarely wears a mask and has mocked his Democratic rival, Joe Biden, 77, for often wearing face coverings.

The White House didn’t comment on reports that Hicks had tested positive, but a spokesman issued a statement about the administration’s Covid-19 protocols.

Seriously...he's been tempting fate for a long time now. I'm not hoping she gave it to him, but it wouldn't surprise me at this point either.

 

[Edd]

He could be aiming for a Jesus rising from the dead angle.

“I died, saw a light, and God spoke! It’s not your time yet, he said. Go back, put a gun in every Republican’s hand, take all the money, grab all the pussies! God sent me to win the election and get great ratings, like MASH finale ratings, so very big, believe me!”

 

[Alli]

Guys, I'm seriously looking for an analysis on what's gonna happen to the SCOTUS in this situation? ANybody?

If there aren’t enough Republicans healthy enough to vote in person, then a vote should be taken anyway, allowing the Democrats to vote down the nomination. Maybe they could quickly vote in Merrick Garland while they’re at it?

 

[lizkat]

He could be aiming for a Jesus rising from the dead angle.

“I died, saw a light, and God spoke! It’s not your time yet, he said. Go back, put a gun in every Republican’s hand, take all the money, grab all the pussies! God sent me to win the election and get great ratings, like MASH finale ratings, so very big, believe me!”

Hmm... does Trump ever crack open that Bible he likes to hold up as a prop now and then?

“But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors” (James 2:9).​

That may not fly in moments here on earth for candidates and their advocates, but when they get up to the pearly gates to meet the authors of the rulebooks, well... ol' James happened to be talking there about the sin of favoring the rich over the poor, but applied that message as well to other forms of turning away from the commandment to love one another.

The early church was radical on this point: its followers ranged from slaves to the extremely wealthy, so the message was hammered on, and in particular by James, the brother of Jesus Christ. The Old Testament had the commandment as one to love the neighbor. The New Testament put it simply as to love one another, managing to elide rather than emphasize the potentially extreme differences among followers of the commandments.

None of this stuff seems to go all that well with Trump's ways of life when I think on it.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Several separate sources reported in the Guardian stating that oxygen was administered to Mr Trump before he left the WH in order to be admitted to hospital.

 

[Eric]

Several separate sources reported in the Guardian stating that oxygen was administered to Mr Trump before left the WH in order to be admitted to hospital.

CNN is reporting the same thing.

 

[lizkat]

CNN is reporting the same thing.

Yeah the disease can move quickly. They didn't want to end up having to haul him out on a gurney to a helicopter or ambulance if his blood oxygen levels suddenly crashed. There are all these horrifying stories of people having mild symptoms and then quite suddenly realizing they couldn't satisfy a conscious need for "more air" no matter how hard they tried to breathe it in.

What a horrible illness, behaving so differently person to person regardless of this or that "typical" frameworks for either vulnerability or response after having been infected. Just the fact that the quantitative viral load has effect on course of the impact is a complication, i.e. degree of proximity of the face to the face of an infected person can worsen not only likelihood of infection but outcome. And of course at the time of a crisis the physicians may not know a whole lot about the person's history with the virus prior to the patient presenting fresh off an ambulance into the ICU.

 

[Edd]

Trump’s Twitter account is tweeting today but no way to know who’s typing. Not stopping dolts online from 100% believing it’s him.

 

[User.45]

Trump’s Twitter account is tweeting today but no way to know who’s typing. Not stopping dolts online from 100% believing it’s him.

At this point they'll have to show a video of him in 48H otherwise i call it BS

 

[Yoused]

I will say the crass thing: for 45 months, Individual-ONE's polling has been in negative territory, but he could now be poised to significantly reverse his ratings deficit.

 

[User.45]

I will say the crass thing: for 45 months, Individual-ONE's polling has been in negative territory, but he could now be poised to significantly reverse his ratings deficit.

If this self-inflicted wound reverses course for him, America deserves its fate. I doubt it. I usually have a very easy time forgiving people and have treated a number of criminals before. Yet, I still have a very hard time resetting my mind about him, and this inertia (I think) applies to others too.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

I will say the crass thing: for 45 months, Individual-ONE's polling has been in negative territory, but he could now be poised to significantly reverse his ratings deficit.

Not unless he dies.

However, I am somewhat concerned that this illness - which I don't doubt now is probably genuine, (which says everything about the credibility of any statement emanating fro the current administration in the WH) but which struck at an extraordinarily convenient time - may serve, if it has not already done so, to move attention and focus away from the questionable financial practices and appalling irregularities of his taxes.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Take a look at Mr Trump's - just released - four minute video clip; good grief.

 

[Thomas Veil]

I don't see him getting a sympathy vote from this, if that's what you guys are suggesting.

I do think that to forestall anything like that from happening, the moment it looks like he's improved and will leave the hospital, the Democrats ought to go on an "I told you so" tour, telling America that they and the scientists were right and Trump was wrong, and that's why he's too dangerously incompetent to be re-elected.

 

[Eric]

I don't see him getting a sympathy vote from this, if that's what you guys are suggesting.

I do think that to forestall anything like that from happening, the moment it looks like he's improved and will leave the hospital, the Democrats ought to go on an "I told you so" tour, telling America that they and the scientists were right and Trump was wrong, and that's why he's too dangerously incompetent to be re-elected.

I agree here, I think people will wish him well and all but won't give him a pity vote, especially when it's all his own doing. He also deliberately infected others even when he knew he was exposed.

 

[Yoused]

And, of course, we know this is all Barack's fault

 

[Yoused]

the Democrats ought to go on an "I told you so" tour

About 45 years ago, kind of out of the blue, I promised myself that I would never use that sentence. I have kept that promise (though, I have cast a look that may have been too close once or twice).

Really, though, the Democrats need do nothing. Their work is being done for them.
https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1312046688840953858/

 

[User.45]

One comment I'm gonna make. If I had money I'd pour it into regeneron....
Nothing will give you more of the insider info than what he's getting and what he's NOT getting, which actually proves a point about the misinformation he has done:
1. He didn't get the breakthrough treatment of convalescent plasma, because it's WEAK AF
2. He didn't get hydroxychloroquine, and I doubt he got azithromycin...That combo may be well tolerated with a good heart, but with some COVID carditis it's risk for no gain.

 

[Eric]

One comment I'm gonna make. If I had money I'd pour it into regeneron....
Nothing will give you more of the insider info than what he's getting and what he's NOT getting, which actually proves a point about the misinformation he has done:
1. He didn't get the breakthrough treatment of convalescent plasma, because it's WEAK AF
2. He didn't get hydroxychloroquine, and I doubt he got azithromycin...That combo may be well tolerated with a good heart, but with some COVID carditis it's risk for no gain.

I can't speak for COVID but I can for azithromycin and copd, when I get a chest infection that medication is like a miracle drug. At my early stages I tend to get a couple infections a year and it knocks it out pretty well, I get a 5 day course to have on hand after each episode to be prepared for the next one.

 

[User.45]

I can't speak for COVID but I can for azithromycin and copd, when I get a chest infection that medication is like a miracle drug. At my early stages I tend to get a couple infections a year and it knocks it out pretty well, I get a 5 day course to have on hand after each episode to be prepared for the next one.

It's probably not great practice as it promotes azithromycin resistance esp that many of these infections are viral (ie. an antibacterial agent won't touch it), but with COPD in the right setting may be a reasonable. Some people argued that it may also have an antiinflammatory effect. The issue is that
1. COVID causes heart inflammation, which can cause arrhythmias
2. Hydroxychloroquine can prolong QT (a form of pre arrhythmia state)
3. Azithromycin can prolong QT
4. Combine it with some electrolyte derangements like hypomagnesemia...
And you have a combo of 4 arythmogenic factors, so the cocktail better does magic in exchange before your EKG starts looking like this:

 

[lizkat]

I agree here, I think people will wish him well and all but won't give him a pity vote, especially when it's all his own doing. He also deliberately infected others even when he knew he was exposed.

Yeah and he's not the only one. Three Minnesota GOP congresscritters flew on Air Force One w/ Trump to Minnesota on Wednesday but then flew back to DC on Delta Friday night, already knowing from Friday morning's Trump tweet that they had been exposed.

Minnesota Congressmen Flew Delta After Flying With Trump

Minneapolis (AP) -- Three Minnesota congressmen are facing backlash over taking a commercial flight home from Washington, D.C., on Friday night just two days after they shared Air Force One with President Donald Trump.

www.bloomberg.com

(I'm tired of so many people thinking they are so f^cking special that the rules laid down by anyone over anything just don't apply to them.)

U.S. Reps. Pete Stauber, Tom Emmer and Jim Hagedorn all were on the same Delta Airlines flight despite the airline’s restrictions on passengers recently exposed to COVID-19. Trump announced early Friday morning he had tested positive for the virus. Delta’s policy says customers who know they were exposed to the virus in the past 14 days cannot travel on the company's aircraft. The airline defines exposure as face-to-face contact with someone carrying the virus, or sustained contact for more than 15 minutes less than 6 feet apart.

The guys told the airline about their situation but said they'd tested negative (so what, you're supposed to quarantine for 14 days after exposure, not take a test after 2 and pronounce yourself airplane worthy) and Delta (ludicrously) did let them fly.

Plane was "only" 40% full.

Yeah... news flash, the air you breathe in a plane is as fungible as cash money in a homebrew kitchen table budget.

No one seems to know what passengers were told, if anything, although the flight was delayed for quite awhile; the airline dithered over what to do.... (and how much flak they'd get for not flying 3 members of congress back to DC on demand?)