Trump aide Hope Hicks has Covid - Update Trump Tests Positive

...and she travels with Trump.

Top Trump aide Hope Hicks tests positive for coronavirus after traveling with president to debate​

...Hicks, who has been known to spend a lot of time with Trump, had traveled with the president to the debate Tuesday night in Cleveland. She was seen not wearing a mask.

Trump, 74, himself rarely wears a mask and has mocked his Democratic rival, Joe Biden, 77, for often wearing face coverings.

The White House didn’t comment on reports that Hicks had tested positive, but a spokesman issued a statement about the administration’s Covid-19 protocols.

Seriously...he's been tempting fate for a long time now. I'm not hoping she gave it to him, but it wouldn't surprise me at this point either.

 

[lizkat]

Aha. If they await the election with the SCOTUS nomination

They may have to let that slide to the lame duck session. Lee and Tillis are on the judiciary committee and they both were at the nomination party and both have covid-19 now.

 

[lizkat]

Oh here we go. Already necessary to call out crackpot Trump fans over "Deep State Military" concerns for Trump at Walter Reed? gimme a damn break.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1312201064188313602/​

 

[Mark]

Aha. If they await the election with the SCOTUS nomination

i wonder if in the case a vp formally takes over as president, if he is still President the Senate?

probably not...hmmm

(edited)

 

[Alli]

If true, while I am sorry that he is ill (I'd rather see him on trial, convicted, and behind bars), this is characteristically disgraceful and disgusting behaviour.

And this is why I want him to live through COVID. That and because he deserves to suffer along with the 7 million other Americans who have gone through it without the benefit of the medical care he’s receiving.

meanwhile Fox News wants Biden to fucking suspend his campaign for two weeks?

Biden has been doing it correctly from the beginning. He doesn’t need to suspend. They should be grateful the Biden campaign is suspending the negative ads.

Aha. If they await the election with the SCOTUS nomination

Which they should do because of the next quote:

They may have to let that slide to the lame duck session. Lee and Tillis are on the judiciary committee and they both were at the nomination party and both have covid-19 now.

McConnell has been adamant about votes being taken in person. Think he’ll change his tune now with only R’s home in quarantine?

 

[fooferdoggie]

looks like typhoid trump gave it to his best liar. and of course she has been running around without a mask.

 

[lizkat]

i wonder if in the case a vp formally takes over as president, if he is still President Pro Temp of the Senate.
probably not...hmmm

The VP is the president of the Senate (although not a Senator).

He is however NOT the Senate's president pro tempore guy, who actually IS also a Senator, and (since around the time of Truman) has been designated as the senator of the majority party with the most seniority.

In line of succession to the presidency, it goes like this
vice president
speaker of the house
senate president pro tempore
secretary of state
secretary of treasury
secretary of defense
attorney general (yeah, Barr)
and on through rest of the cabinet officers

In the VP's absence for any reason, the Senate's president pro tempore takes his place, e.g. to break a tie for instance.

So there's already a senate president pro tempore, it's currently Senator Grassley, and the only weird thing about that is that he ends up actually double-voting if he must break a tie.

That's because if there's a tie on the vote and the VP's absent and Grassley has to break it, they can't penalize Iowa his Senatorial vote just because Grassley has to put his pro temp prez hat on... and if they did do that, then in subtracting his Senate vote to let him put on his other hat, suddenly there'd be no tie to break anyway, duh. So it can seem a little weird but I guess it doesn't happen often enough to make people mad over Iowa essentially getting an extra vote if Grassley has to break a tie.

 

[User.45]

And this is why I want him to live through COVID. That and because he deserves to suffer along with the 7 million other Americans who have gone through it without the benefit of the medical care he’s receiving.

Biden has been doing it correctly from the beginning. He doesn’t need to suspend. They should be grateful the Biden campaign is suspending the negative ads.

Which they should do because of the next quote:

McConnell has been adamant about votes being taken in person. Think he’ll change his tune now with only R’s home in quarantine?

That would be interesting. McConnell would fare well with COVID...

 

[lizkat]

That would be interesting. McConnell would fare well with COVID...

The whole thing with the Barrett vetting is a hot mess. Dems don't want to meet her because RBG and Obama etc., staffers are wary of being exposed to other staffers who may or may not have been masking up before now, or even now; both Dems and Rs have hired outside counsel and they in turn all have staffers...

Barrett could end up tagged as justice typhoid mary just for showing up to her own nomination.

 

[Thomas Veil]

...Biden has been doing it correctly from the beginning. He doesn’t need to suspend. They should be grateful the Biden campaign is suspending the negative ads.

Yeah, but as Rachel Maddow told us tonight, the Trump campaign has not suspended its Biden attack ads.

Different rules, folks.

Then there's this.

"QAnon followers, again, unsurprisingly, don't believe the diagnosis is real," said Aoife Gallagher, a disinformation and extremism analyst at the London-based Institute for Strategic Dialogue, in an email interview. "They are excited about the news as they believe Trump is feigning quarantine in order to bring about 'The Storm,' the mass arrest of the 'deep state cabal,' the moment Q followers have been waiting on for years now."

And don't you worry about his health because...

“You’ve never seen him sick. You’ve never seen him without energy,” Brenden Dilley, a self-described “MAGA life coach,” told his viewers on his radio show Friday. “[He’s] not walking around with weak-ass, p---- f------ genetics. He ain’t got those liberal genes. These are, like, god-tier genetics; top 1-percentile genetics.”

How positively...Aryan.

Then there was another story I saw where someone said this was a plot to "get" Trump. "Don't you think it's funny," one woman asked, "how only Republicans seem to get this disease? You don't see Democrats getting it." Yeah, that is suspicious. There's no other possible explanation.

 

[lizkat]

Project Lincoln is putting up nice Biden ads.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1312206032442142720/

 

[Thomas Veil]

Wish I could find this Biden spot that ran during last week's Browns game. Biden talked about he'd be president for all because America is the red states as well as the blue states. He kept saying "We can" work on the climate, "We can" strengthen the ACA, "We can," "We can," "We can."

I dunno, I think he was channeling somebody...............

Edit: found it, but unfortunately not on YouTube. https://ispot.tv/a/nUTU Excellent ad!

 

[lizkat]

Then there's this.

Yeah I could live to be 200 years old and never really get the whole QAnon thing. To me it all feels like pirated bad reprints or tapes of shadowy spoofs of those 70s essays, books and documentaries on "what went wrong w/ America?" -- even as back then some of us were having the time of our lives or else knowing damn well what was wrong with America, and either way nothing very mysterious about any of it, even to the power plays of politics and war. But no, QAnon must have it all wrapped up in horror film allusions and conspiracy theories. So tedious.

End result of it all seems to be turning the questions away from

"what is true, what are the facts and how do we feel about them?"​

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to something else, something more malicious, like

"whaddya gonna do when ya can't keep us from swearing to God that it's all a hoax and an apocalyptic set of conspiracies all the way down?"​

​

and I'm like yeah but why would you want to do that really?

Must be why I like those Biden ads, they still make some sense in context of and comparison to the real world I see every day. The stuff I see about QAnon feels like b-roll off b-movies that went right to dvd.

 

[Thomas Veil]

When I'd see something like large groups of people acting moronically in the movies I'd think, yeah it's a nice story, but people would never really be that stupid.

You know that commercial where all the teenage kids are running from the killer, and instead of wisely escaping in the running car, they choose to hide out in the garage with all the chain saws? It's such an absurd commercial. I never thought I'd see that level of stupidity actually come to life. But that's QAnon.

 

[lizkat]

Here's a flat piece of truth... that we could really use it now but nobody's home to tell it.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1312205940653920256/

 

[Mark]

The VP is the president of the Senate (although not a Senator).

He is however NOT the Senate's president pro tempore guy, who actually IS also a Senator, and (since around the time of Truman) has been designated as the senator of the majority party with the most seniority.

In line of succession to the presidency, it goes like this
vice president
speaker of the house
senate president pro tempore
secretary of state
secretary of treasury
secretary of defense
attorney general (yeah, Barr)
and on through rest of the cabinet officers

In the VP's absence for any reason, the Senate's president pro tempore takes his place, e.g. to break a tie for instance.

So there's already a senate president pro tempore, it's currently Senator Grassley, and the only weird thing about that is that he ends up actually double-voting if he must break a tie.

That's because if there's a tie on the vote and the VP's absent and Grassley has to break it, they can't penalize Iowa his Senatorial vote just because Grassley has to put his pro temp prez hat on... and if they did do that, then in subtracting his Senate vote to let him put on his other hat, suddenly there'd be no tie to break anyway, duh. So it can seem a little weird but I guess it doesn't happen often enough to make people mad over Iowa essentially getting an extra vote if Grassley has to break a tie.

thanks for the terminology correction i got wrong.

so, if the VP takes over for P, then the VP is not able to break ties in the Senate.
but you indicate that in that case, the President Pro Tempore gets to cast his vote as Senator AND vote as a tie breaker.

thanks.

 

[Mark]

i don't see any reason to think that Hicks was the most likely to have infected trump.
of course its totally possible that that is what happened, but everything really is pointing to the Barrett Rose Garden Party as Prime Vector.

of course it couldn't be the debutant barrett.
it has come to light just today that Barrett herself had COVID-19 earlier in the spring.
so presumably she has some limited time immunity from the same strain of virus she had.

i can't find any info about a recovered covid person infecting others while s/he is non-symptomatic.

meanwhile, trump himself and his garden party coterie were infecting people in Minnesota and Columbus even though they knew at least that Hicks was infected.

 

[JayMysteri0]

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1312245655650349056/
That was funny, This brought me back to Earth
https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1312173114868953089/
.
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https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1312105773703458816/

 

[Mark]

Here is how it went for 74 year old Herbert Caine.
Admitted to hospital about 1 week after contracting it, dying a little bit more than 3 weeks later after going into hospital.

Herman Cain Passes After 3-Week Coronavirus Battle​

JUL 30, 2020
Herman Cain, business executive and former presidential candidate, has died of COVID-19. Cain previously survived cancer and was 74 years of age.
...
Cain was admitted to an Atlanta, Georgia area hospital on July 1, after testing positive for SARS-CoV-2 several days prior.

On Tuesday, Cain was said to be recovering, possibly reflecting the complex immune system stages of COVID-19 disease course:

"We didn’t release detailed updates on his condition to the public or to the media because neither his family nor we thought there was any reason for that. There were hopeful indicators, including a mere five days ago when doctors told us they thought he would eventually recover, although it wouldn’t be quick. We were relieved to be told that, and passed on the news via Herman’s social media. And yet we also felt real concern about the fact that he never quite seemed to get to the point where the doctors could advance him to the recovery phase," Calabrese said.
...


then, there is this:
photo of how crowded the rose garden pack-the-court-event was

 

[Scepticalscribe]

A nice quote from Andrew Gawthrope in today's edition of the Guardian: "For that reason, we should wish the president a speedy recovery, a devastating election defeat and a long and ignominious retirement."

To that, I would add, that - as part of that retirement - being put on trial, convicted and finding himself behind bars as a consequence - which would be a triumph for evidence based convictions and the concept of the rule of law - would be a satisfactory outcome.

 

[JayMysteri0]

Pretty well sums it up
https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1312189188750540800/