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Hey @DT, happy to help. I think we're all continually learning. My industry has been shaken by this unfortunate incident.
Mike Tristano, a veteran professional armorer based in Los Angeles, said the inventory was vague and gave scant information about the type of guns or bullets found. But he did point to the reference to loose ammunition and spent casings as unusual. Typically, ammunition would be kept in a clearly labeled box, he said. “The fact that there is loose ammunition and casings raises questions about the organization of the armory department,” he said.
Mr. Halls, an industry veteran who worked on films including “Fargo” and “The Matrix Reloaded,” has been the subject of complaints about safety on previous productions. On Monday, a production company, Rocket Soul Studios, said in a statement that Mr. Halls had been fired from the set of a movie, “Freedom’s Path” in 2019 after a gun unexpectedly discharged, causing a minor injury to a crew member. The statement was reported earlier by CNN.
“Halls was removed from set immediately after the prop gun discharged,” the statement said. Mr. Halls did not immediately respond to a request for comment on that situation.
Investigators said they believe they have recovered the gun that fired the shot, as well as about 500 rounds of ammunition, including blanks, dummy rounds and potentially live rounds.
A lead projectile was recovered from the director’s shoulder, and investigators believe more live rounds were on set.Sheriff Adan Mendoza of Santa Fe County said at a news conference on Wednesday that the lead projectile Alec Baldwin fired from a revolver on the “Rust” film set, killing the film’s cinematographer and wounding its director, was recovered from the director’s shoulder, and added that investigators believe they recovered more live rounds on the set.
Even though there wasn't an "official" report about previous accidental gun discharges (two or three according to production staffers),
This was a western. Meaning the guns should have been revolvers. Unlike Glocks and other semi-automatics, which can fire accidentally very easily, you have to try to fire a revolver. If it is a single action (which to be authentic should have been used for a movie set in the 1880's as Colt didn't come out with a true double action until 1889), you have to pull the hammer back manually. So very hard to accidentally discharge.
A double action means the trigger can replace the manual cocking, but the pull is much harder. Very hard to accidentally fire a double action revolver.
Sounds like some clowns were in charge of the weapons.
another quality trump child stupidity.
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One of the actors said the crew had shields in front of them and it caused several of them to question why. Doesn't sound like it did much good in this case but it was an interesting fact.
Thread following post:That's interesting. Like a plexiglass shield to block fragments from blanks? Some productions will add plexi or thin plastic shields to keep dust and debris from hitting the cameras—no one wants to clean out a Red camera because it's on lease and is crammed with grit.
People are using the term accidental discharge, but I think that's clearly the wrong term here. It's clear that Baldwin believed he was handling a "cold gun," but that weapon was apparently, not only capable of firing, but loaded with a live round due to an unfortunate series of fuck-ups.
The very fact that they were using live ammo to target shoot is by itself such a constellation of screw-ups that an accident was almost fateful.
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Yes. Of course. That's why I referenced the post's thread. The OP posted "To be clear: I'm well aware this would only protect against blanks. Of course, if real bullets were involved this wouldn't do anything to protect the crew. "That’s a plexiglass cover to protect the camera and the crew from the discharge of powder and possibly heat. That thing wouldn’t stop a bullet from a nerf gun.
Oh yes, I understand. My reply was to the tweet.Yes. Of course. That's why I referenced the post's thread. The OP posted "To be clear: I'm well aware this would only protect against blanks. Of course, if real bullets were involved this wouldn't do anything to protect the crew. "
I shared the plexi post because of @hulugu 's post that I quoted. Plexi shields do have their uses. We used several to cover four cameras and protect the camera crew when we blew up the exploding bridge (miniature) for Anna & the King.
If I remember correctly, the gun that killed Brandon Lee had discharged improperly leaving something (a bullet?) in the barrel. So the next time it was used with a blank, the obstruction was propelled hitting and killing him. I think he died on the operating table.Yeah, that's probably not accurate, this was indicated as a "prop gun", but with blanks, it's has the potential for the same force as a "real gun". Generally, I think actual, real firearms are only used for specific scenes, but in some productions they are present on set. So closeup, real, firing - prop, but with blanks that release significant pressures (which is what has happened, the blank wadding, or a part of the prop shattered and it was projected as high velocities).
Though this is interesting from the Wiki on Brandon Lee:
Note the bold part.