COVID Stupid

[Herdfan]

I would like to know what "GOP voters" and "Dem voters" actually means, because, together they make up barely half of Americans overall.

I think they mean both actual members of the party and those who vote that way. If you look at the graph is says Dem/Lean Dem and GOP/Lean GOP.

As far as the two parties are concerned, both can go away for all I care. Why the middle puts up with what the fringes want is a mystery.

 

[mac_in_tosh]

First, I don't recall any pushback or "derisive attitude" against Social Distancing.

Trump held packed campaign rallies, often referred to as superspreader rallies, in total disregard of social distancing. Various analyses have estimated the number of (thousands of) covid cases that resulted.

 

[fooferdoggie]

Trump held packed campaign rallies, often referred to as superspreader rallies, in total disregard of social distancing. Various analyses have estimated the number of (thousands of) covid cases that resulted.

lets not forget trump spread covid himself when he had to to his donors.

 

[Herdfan]

Trump held packed campaign rallies, often referred to as superspreader rallies, in total disregard of social distancing. Various analyses have estimated the number of (thousands of) covid cases that resulted.

Ok, that's fair. But that is a bit different than him saying derisive things about it.

 

[mac_in_tosh]

Ok, that's fair. But that is a bit different than him saying derisive things about it.

I know he did that about masks. I assumed from his behavior that he also did it about social distancing but can't find anything in a quick search. But really, whether he said it or not, his actions - tightly packed rallies - showed his disregard for it among his supporters. Disregard vs. derision - what's the difference in practice?

So we can grant that the person who incited an attack and made phone calls to block the peaceful transition of power, the stealer of top secret documents and the obstructor of their return, the lifelong grifter, tax and insurance cheat, the spreader of the Big Lie that has caused such disruption in the nation and the author of recent deranged, threatening social media posts did not say derisive things about social distancing.

 

[AG_PhamD]

Why America was uniquely vulnerable to COVID​

• But this study offers a more nuanced view of how the combination of factors made certain states more vulnerable than others. For example, the analysis found no association between the political affiliation of the state governor and death rates. But one key predictor of infections and total COVID deaths was the share of people that voted for President Trump in the 2020 presidential election.

Why America was uniquely vulnerable to COVID

The pandemic experience varied sharply from state to state, according to an analysis published in The Lancet.

www.axios.com

This sounds more like a political commentary than actual scientific analysis. If you look at the vaccine adoption rates among the highest risk age group (age 60+), there’s something like 96% vaccination.

I would think the more significant factor is the underlying health of the public and their access to quality healthcare. Many red states are not exactly known for their overwhelming rates of excellent personal health or healthcare quality.

Attributing COVID outcomes to who someone voted for is not particularly useful in my opinion other than trying to add fuel to the partisan dumpster fire. Who they voted for has zero clinical significance. What the data does clearly show is that poorer people with poorer underlying health and poor quality healthcare resources in their area had worse outcomes. If there is to be a political point, perhaps it should be around providing better access to quality healthcare and having sufficient quality healthcare resources to begin with. It’s no mystery red states generally speaking are less motivated to fund the aforementioned. And these issues are much more of a state issue than they are a federal issue when talking about individual comparisons.

 

[Roller]

Florida surgeon general altered key findings in study on Covid-19 vaccine safety

Joseph Ladapo defended the move, saying revisions are a normal part of assessing such analysis.

www.politico.com

This guy was chosen to be Florida's Surgeon General for purely political reasons. He claimed COVID experience he never had, supported hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID, and was aligned with America's Frontline Doctors Quacks.

 

[Herdfan]

Neil Young tells Spotify that they can carry his music or Joe Rogan's Covid bullshit, but not both. Spotify makes the wrong choice.

I never used Spotify before and certainly will not now.

Guess the money was more important than his beliefs.

Neil Young Announces Return to Spotify After Leaving in 2022 Over Joe Rogan's Spread of 'Disinformation'

Neil Young has announced that his entire discography will return to streaming on Spotify after he previously removed it in protest of the platform's deal with 'The Joe Rogan Experience' podcast. The decision comes as the podcast is no longer exclusive to Spotify.

people.com

 

[Edd]

Guess the money was more important than his beliefs.

Neil Young Announces Return to Spotify After Leaving in 2022 Over Joe Rogan's Spread of 'Disinformation'

Neil Young has announced that his entire discography will return to streaming on Spotify after he previously removed it in protest of the platform's deal with 'The Joe Rogan Experience' podcast. The decision comes as the podcast is no longer exclusive to Spotify.

people.com

Speculation there. He kept it off for a long time, starting when Covid was more dangerous. Keeping the music off all services with that dimwit's podcast seems like diminishing returns. He's a pretty rich dude as it is, but I don't know his spending habits.

 

[Eric]

Speculation there. He kept it off for a long time, starting when Covid was more dangerous. Keeping the music off all services with that dimwit's podcast seems like diminishing returns. He's a pretty rich dude as it is, but I don't know his spending habits.

I think most are over all of the COVID debate/restrictions at this point but the fact that Joe Rogan is a total douchenozzle will always remain.

 

[MEJHarrison]

Guess the money was more important than his beliefs.

He has a convenient out in this case. Although if he truly wants to follow what he said a few years back, he should drop those other services as well. But as Eric points out, Covid in 2024 is different than Covid in 2022. I see it not so much as backing down as he's re-assessing the situation since it's a different landscape today than it was a couple years back.

So on one hand I agree with you, but on the other hand, I don't blame him. And on the third hand I don't listen to his music, any music services and don't really care.

Celebrities can impress or disappointment me, but they're celebrities at the end of the day and I don't look to them for moral guidance. So....

 

[Yoused]

Apparently intent upon adding the word "kashhole" to the language, Kash Patel person (former Chief of Staff to the Defense Secretary) is touting an “mRNA detox” regimen that will reverse the covid vaccine, get you healthy again and protect you from vaccinated people who are shedding the spike protein. For only $90/month.

Just plain evil.

 

[MEJHarrison]

Apparently intent upon adding the word "kashhole" to the language, Kash Patel person (former Chief of Staff to the Defense Secretary) is touting an “mRNA detox” regimen that will reverse the covid vaccine, get you healthy again and protect you from vaccinated people who are shedding the spike protein. For only $90/month.

I'm selling a hammer for $100. It's a one-time payment and you can smack yourself in the head with it as many times as you like. It will cure you of Covid, Covid vaccines and a host of other ailments (basically everything except stupidity).

 

[Eric]

Oh no, not Turbo Cancer! This comes from a verified X users so it's gotta be true.

 

[rdrr]

Oh no, not Turbo Cancer! This comes from a verified X users so it's gotta be true.

I like how the Cited headline has "Fact checked" under it. Ohhh! Fact checked, it must be true because it says so!

 

[Citysnaps]

Heh...Turbo. Infects like a White tornado? (referencing old Ajax commercials)

 

[Roller]

I like how the Cited headline has "Fact checked" under it. Ohhh! Fact checked, it must be true because it says so!

A real risk is that if and when SARS-CoV-2 mutates to a form that causes more injury and death, vaccine uptake will be lower than ever, assuming there's even a formulation that is more effective. The same is true for the next pandemic, which will surely come at some point.

 

[Herdfan]

A real risk is that if and when SARS-CoV-2 mutates to a form that causes more injury and death, vaccine uptake will be lower than ever, assuming there's even a formulation that is more effective. The same is true for the next pandemic, which will surely come at some point.

That's what happens when you simply tell people "shut up, you're stupid" and don't allow any legitimate discussion.

 

[Edd]

That's what happens when you simply tell people "shut up, you're stupid" and don't allow any legitimate discussion.

Wrong. That’s what happens when the right wing media fabricates a wedge issue, easily convincing dupes that their freedom is at stake so they act against their own best interests.

 

[Eric]

That's what happens when you simply tell people "shut up, you're stupid" and don't allow any legitimate discussion.

Shooting up bleach or horse tranquilizers is not "legitimate discussion". If you want to have a conversation about it you need to not look like total dipshits.