Electric Vehicles: General topics

throAU said:
Running from building entry and blah blah something something Australian electrician rates probably. Plus Australian new technology bs pricing

Also. Above explains why until recently there was a 12-18 month wait on rav4 hybrids here. Demand massively outstripping supply.

It’s still 4 months for a brand new order. I managed to find one I wanted in stock, brand new. Thanks ChatGPT search!! Only one within 200km of Perth that wasn’t a demo!
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Are Toyota's Prime models popular in Australia?
 
diamond.g said:
Are Toyota's Prime models popular in Australia?
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We don’t get the prime here! Which is nuts, they’d sell like hot cakes.

This is why I’m betting on a 3 year lease. I need a new car and my bet is that the 2026 refresh of rav4 will finally bring the prime to Australia. The one I’m getting is regular hybrid AWD. “Cruiser” spec in Australia nomenclature. Not sure what it matches up with in America but it’s the top level of regular hybrid without the off road pack we don’t really get.

Give it 2 years or so to shake out the bugs and then flip my 2025 model.

The 2025 is the last year of this run and they’ve proven reliable and all the bugs are sorted out.

Several car purchases over the years have taught me “never buy series one” of a new model. 👍
 
diamond.g said:
Holy moly, why is installing a home charger so expensive?
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I did not install a home charger, but was able to rewire a 240V outlet to fit the charging cord that came with my car. I was lucky that we already had a 240V circuit and outlet in the garage from the previous owners. Getting an electrician to wire it into your breaker box is freaking expensive, and a lot of home chargers are hard-wired in, which is an additional expense. Of course, if you can get by in trickle charging, you can just use an existing 110V outlet (my cord can do that) – you will only get about 10 miles (16km) an hour, but for a lot of people, overnight, that is plenty.
 
Yoused said:
I did not install a home charger, but was able to rewire a 240V outlet to fit the charging cord that came with my car. I was lucky that we already had a 240V circuit and outlet in the garage from the previous owners. Getting an electrician to wire it into your breaker box is freaking expensive, and a lot of home chargers are hard-wired in, which is an additional expense.
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To be clear when i was referring to installing a charger:

  • in australia we have 240V 10 amp outlets as standard (i.e., can feed something like 2.4kw - i am not an electrician, but roughly), so we can slow charge that way without a charger installation
  • the install was to get an 11kw fast charger install, in order to be able to do an 80kwh battery in its entirety over night. that would also require me to get 3 phase power which i believe is ~415V
just in case that's different, and may explain the expense.
 
throAU said:
To be clear when i was referring to installing a charger:

  • in australia we have 240V 10 amp outlets as standard (i.e., can feed something like 2.4kw - i am not an electrician, but roughly), so we can slow charge that way without a charger installation
  • the install was to get an 11kw fast charger install, in order to be able to do an 80kwh battery in its entirety over night.
just in case that's different, and may explain the expense.
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My circuit is allegedly 50A (I have not checked the actual amperage), but my car only wants to take about 6kW, even though, theoretically, I could get around 12kW or more.
 
Yoused said:
My circuit is allegedly 50A (I have not checked the actual amperage), but my car only wants to take about 6kW, even though, theoretically, I could get around 12kW or more.
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Yeah, our individual outlets/circuits are rated at 10A, not the entire house :)
 
Just as an aside, one really interesting hybrid we get as of a couple of months ago is the BYD Shark.

30kw plug in hybrid "truck" (like, Hilux or 4Runner size).

If i was after something like that I'd seriously consider but BYD has nowhere near Toyota's dealer network and whilst they're real nice inside and the product seems solid, etc.... they're still new to australia and i have more confidence in toyota resale right now.

bydautomotive.com.au

BYD Automotive | BYD SHARK 6 - New Energy Vehicles

BYD SHARK 6 comes equipped with a Hybrid Special 1.5 litre turbo high-power engine that, in conjunction with the BYD Blade battery, boasts a massive 321kw of power.
bydautomotive.com.au bydautomotive.com.au

Either way - much better/more practical/nicer interior option than a cybertruck for like.... 1/3 the price.
 
My company bought 20 rivians (mining company) but at the moment they can’t be used on the road in Australia and i dont even think they’re available right hand drive?

Not sure when i’ll see them or what they’re going to be used for, lol.

Maybe they’ll use them in our Canada location.
 
Cmaier said:
This is interesting - if BMW tries to raise my price by 25%, I might be tempted…

9to5mac.com

‘EV Play’ accessory promises to bring CarPlay and more to Rivian - 9to5Mac

Rivian is one of several CarPlay holdouts, opting instead to build its own infotainment system focused on deep integration with...
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Oh, dang, I meant to share that here the other day. The developer is over on the Rivian forum :)

www.rivianforums.com

New EV Play Update

I just sent out an update which should be hitting your inboxes shortly. If you have emailed me in the past or signed up for the newsletter, but have not received the email, please check your SPAM folder. If still nothing, make sure to sign up for our newsletter again here and whitelist both...
www.rivianforums.com www.rivianforums.com
 
DT said:
Oh, dang, I meant to share that here the other day. The developer is over on the Rivian forum :)

www.rivianforums.com

New EV Play Update

I just sent out an update which should be hitting your inboxes shortly. If you have emailed me in the past or signed up for the newsletter, but have not received the email, please check your SPAM folder. If still nothing, make sure to sign up for our newsletter again here and whitelist both...
www.rivianforums.com www.rivianforums.com
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Very interesting. So the audio is piped via BT from the Android PC to the Rivian system. Not sure how sustainable a subscription for updates and support would be.
 
diamond.g said:
Very interesting. So the audio is piped via BT from the Android PC to the Rivian system. Not sure how sustainable a subscription for updates and support would be.
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Yeah, the software side is often what eventually fails and then just bricks the device when there's no more support. At least it's someone with a Rivian, doing this for a side gig, and enthusiast, etc., so there's a decent communication channel.

Heck, if he ever bailed, maybe he'd just opensource it :)

Very cool though, I said we had to have CarPlay (at least for now) , so while not OEM, it's an option. I think .... maybe :D
 
Cmaier said:
my car won’t even be ordered from the factory until June.
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Hey there is a pause in effect till July so yay? How long from when it gets built till it is at the dealership? Maybe you can order it in May, or towards the end of this month? You don't have to pay upfront for a custom order like that do you?
 
diamond.g said:
Hey there is a pause in effect till July so yay? How long from when it gets built till it is at the dealership? Maybe you can order it in May, or towards the end of this month? You don't have to pay upfront for a custom order like that do you?
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I can’t even order until June. (I have been through all this with the dealer and factory). The pause, it turns out, also might not affect the car tariffs. It sounds like it only affects the new “reciprocal” tariffs.
 
Cmaier said:
I can’t even order until June. (I have been through all this with the dealer and factory). The pause, it turns out, also might not affect the car tariffs. It sounds like it only affects the new “reciprocal” tariffs.
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Well that sucks.
 
Cmaier said:
I can’t even order until June. (I have been through all this with the dealer and factory). The pause, it turns out, also might not affect the car tariffs. It sounds like it only affects the new “reciprocal” tariffs.
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Ah that was ages ago, like last week!

Who knows what will happen when teh car hits the dock. Could be 0%, could be 1800%, nobody knows, not even trump!
 
Well, new car smell!

Wish we got the prime but hybrid still great!

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