Electric Vehicles: General topics

Cmaier said:
they’ll probably start charging tolls just on EV cars.
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That may sound like a joke, but have you heard the demands that EVs pay some extra fee since they don't "subsidize the transportation with gas taxes"?

I'd love to see Elon do a Rumpelstiltskin for that...
 
Eric said:
Congrats, looks like a nice car.
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Way nicer than it should be for a base model. And the technology is incredible. It does have BlueCruise which is Ford’s HF driving. I drive one a couple times a week and had to go to Phoenix one time. The HF worked great on the 101 Loop.

It handled the stop/start every bit as good as a person. It only works on certain “mapped” highways but that’s fine.

I know the purists will says “It’s not a Mustang” and that’s fine. It’s just a name.
 
Herdfan said:
Way nicer than it should be for a base model. And the technology is incredible. It does have BlueCruise which is Ford’s HF driving. I drive one a couple times a week and had to go to Phoenix one time. The HF worked great on the 101 Loop.

It handled the stop/start every bit as good as a person. It only works on certain “mapped” highways but that’s fine.

I know the purists will says “It’s not a Mustang” and that’s fine. It’s just a name.
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I personally like Ford, they seem to have been up with the latest tech from the start. My wife isn't a big fan or I would likely have purchased one.
 
Eric said:
I personally like Ford, they seem to have been up with the latest tech from the start. My wife isn't a big fan or I would likely have purchased one.
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friend of mine is responsible for their software stack, last i checked. Worked with me at AMD, Sun and Exponential. Love that guy, but he moved to michigan. His wife graduated law school and was the one who told me to become a lawyer and go to SCU at night.

Last time he came to town we played foosball on my tornado table, and between us we broke 3 men in one game. (We spent a lot of time playing foosball late at night while waiting for chip builds to finish).

Anyway, Ford is good.
 
Cmaier said:
Anyway, Ford is good.
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Mostly. I might have considered a Mach-E – except, that huge screen just dangling off the dash looks ugly. That is its biggest drawback, too much for me to tolerate. I guess if you are used to a Tesla, it does not seem that bad.
 
Yoused said:
Mostly. I might have considered a Mach-E – except, that huge screen just dangling off the dash looks ugly. That is its biggest drawback, too much for me to tolerate. I guess if you are used to a Tesla, it does not seem that bad.
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you get used to it, i imagine. Mostly i judge a car based on whether it works, and whether it keeps working without constant trips to the service shop.
 
Herdfan said:
Way nicer than it should be for a base model. And the technology is incredible. It does have BlueCruise which is Ford’s HF driving. I drive one a couple times a week and had to go to Phoenix one time. The HF worked great on the 101 Loop.

It handled the stop/start every bit as good as a person. It only works on certain “mapped” highways but that’s fine.

I know the purists will says “It’s not a Mustang” and that’s fine. It’s just a name.
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I am not a Mustang purist, as I own a 1999 35th anniversary edition. IMO the 80-90-early 00 were a bad look. The Mach-E has grown on me, and I would consider it for the next purchase. Congrats!
 
rdrr said:
I am not a Mustang purist, as I own a 1999 35th anniversary edition. IMO the 80-90-early 00 were a bad look. The Mach-E has grown on me, and I would consider it for the next purchase. Congrats!
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I think they should have called it the Maverick and found a different name for the mini truck. The Maverick was a contemporary of the Mustang and keeps with the horse themed naming.

And it will flat spank any ICE version. Even the base model. :)
 
Herdfan said:
I think they should have called it the Maverick and found a different name for the mini truck.
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Ford actually had a mini-truck. I have one sitting in the driveway: Ranger. And, in fact, Ford made a Ranger EV for a short time, about a quarter century ago.

And it will flat spank any ICE version. Even the base model. :)
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I occaisionally smoke bumper-glue. The other day, a guy was right on me so I gradually dropped to 25 in a 45 – comparable to his proper following distance – then jumped back up to 45 like a slienced shot. The responsiveness of an EV is impressive – my car holds cruise-contol speed far better than any ICE I have ever driven.
 
Herdfan said:
I think they should have called it the Maverick and found a different name for the mini truck. The Maverick was a contemporary of the Mustang and keeps with the horse themed naming.

And it will flat spank any ICE version. Even the base model. :)
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EV seems inherently faster by every measure, I know when I first got my Tesla I was blown away at how responsive it was, like being strapped to a jet engine with no lag.
 
Eric said:
EV seems inherently faster by every measure, I know when I first got my Tesla I was blown away at how responsive it was, like being strapped to a jet engine with no lag.
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I notice that with my hybrid. Long ago I used to autocross. I don't know if that's done anymore. But if it is, I think my ride would be a worthy competitor (both in power and handling).
 
diamond.g said:
Auto-X is still a thing, though some tracks are wishy-washy on EV's being allowed.
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I can see that. Having to compete with EVs/hybrids having gobs of instant torque coming out of the twisties probably doesn't seem fair to them. Maybe having two classes is the solution.
 
Citysnaps said:
Having to compete with EVs/hybrids having gobs of instant torque coming out of the twisties probably doesn't seem fair to them.
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Add to that the regen going into curves and the low CoG that ICEs cannot possibly match. Shift an EV into B and you can do a twisty road without ever taking your foot off the throttle yet also not losing anything on the top end the way downshifting otherwise would. Maybe they are too easy (or mabe ICE is just pointlessly difficult).
 
Yoused said:
Add to that the regen going into curves and the low CoG that ICEs cannot possibly match.
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Low CG is killer. And one of the reasons I went with a sedan hybrid (coming from SUVs and wanting something different). Reminds me of my youth when I tricked out a used Datsun 510 with racing suspension (special struts, shorter/stiffer springs, 1 1/4" front and rear sway bars, etc), and lowering it. Loads of fun, especially in the mountains... easily getting away from so-called muscle cars with 4X the horsepower. :)
 
Yoused said:
Ford actually had a mini-truck. I have one sitting in the driveway: Ranger. And, in fact, Ford made a Ranger EV for a short time, about a quarter century
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Yep. I work at a Ford dealership and there are some old-timers that are kind of pissed that the new Rangers are:

1) Almost the size of a 90’s F-150, and

2) Only come as a SuperCrew with a short bed.

We had a ‘99 on the lot. Lasted a day before a farmer bought it for a farm truck.
 
Herdfan said:
Yep. I work at a Ford dealership and there are some old-timers that are kind of pissed that the new Rangers are:

1) Almost the size of a 90’s F-150, and

2) Only come as a SuperCrew with a short bed.

We had a ‘99 on the lot. Lasted a day before a farmer bought it for a farm truck.
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I always laugh when i see a short bed supercrew. I check to see if the driver is wearing a performative cowboy hat.
 
Herdfan said:
Yep. I work at a Ford dealership and there are some old-timers that are kind of pissed that the new Rangers are:

1) Almost the size of a 90’s F-150, and

2) Only come as a SuperCrew with a short bed.

We had a ‘99 on the lot. Lasted a day before a farmer bought it for a farm truck.
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I still have my '99 F-150 Flareside truck. It has served me well over the years. But now I'm looking for a smaller truck - possibly a Maverick hybrid. Working at a Ford dealership... do you have any thoughts/opinion about the Maverick?
 
Herdfan said:
2) Only come as a SuperCrew with a short bed.
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That describes 95% of the pickups out there. Especially those Chevy and Dodge things with the huge don't-fuck-with-me grills on the front. It is not even a "short" bed, it is a big open trunk: a "short" bed is six feet, these are all less than that. Every time I see one of those things, they are shouting "Look How Small My Penis Is!"
 

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