Guns are still America’s religion

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theSeb said:
i believe that you are right. Most polls show gun owners are in favour of gun controls like I mentioned. Most polls show the same data for all America. But nothing is ever done, as per @Renzatic
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Herdfan said:
Make it a national law and I think you would be surprised at just how many gun owners would support it.
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Renzatic said:
Most responsible gun owners are perfectly fine with some form of gun control and background checks. It's doing so without the talking heads screaming COMMUNISM, making it into another wedge issue to hammer during an election season that's the challenge.
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1. Polls indicate that America is a lot more left-leaning when policy proposals packaged without party politics involved, but a substantial proportion of these people still vote against these principles on election day.
2. As we have noticed you can't get a senate majority past the filibuster threshold running on a platform advocating for gun regulation. It's a fact.
 
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Yeah, we’re good ole, not so bright gun toting Amer-i-kans always ready to shoot first, give us a reason, any reason.
 
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Huntn said:
Yeah, we’re good ole, not so bright gun toting Amer-i-kans always ready to shoot first, give us a reason, any reason.
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You left a couple "k"s out, there. Please try to spell this word correctly.

Also, try to shoot the bear, not the brother (or yourself).

www.bbc.com

Misfire at Oregon bear results in death of two US brothers

The man accidentally shoots his brother while loading a gun to aim at a bear on their property.
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At a protest against police violence in Portland last night, multiple people were shot, and at least one is dead.

news.yahoo.com

Portland shooting near Amir Locke event leaves 1 dead, 5 wounded: report

A shooting in Portland, Oregon, on Saturday night near the site of a demonstration left at least one person dead and five wounded, with at least two people taken into custody, according to reports.
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Also of interest as I looked at the police department’s statement: There was also an “officer-involved shooting” the same night. Here are snippets of police department descriptions of the two incidents.

When officers arrived they located a female victim who was deceased. Additional shooting victims, two men and three women, were transported to area hospitals and their status is unknown at this time.
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The subject of the officer involved shooting died at the scene, and no officers were hurt
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If you’re killed by a police officer, you’re not a victim, nor is your gender revealed. You are not a human being. You are a “subject.” Most importantly, they don’t care if you are dead; what’s more important is that no officers were hurt. Now, I don’t know if the “subject” of the police killing was shooting at them or just asleep on a park bench. It doesn’t say. But they use the same language no matter whether the officer is at fault or not. It really tells you the point of view of the department.
 
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If you’re killed by a police officer, you’re not a victim, nor is your gender revealed. You are not a human being. You are a “subject.” Most importantly, they don’t care if you are dead; what’s more important is that no officers were hurt. Now, I don’t know if the “subject” of the police killing was shooting at them or just asleep on a park bench. It doesn’t say. But they use the same language no matter whether the officer is at fault or not. It really tells you the point of view of the department.
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There were no cameras on the scene to fuck up our narrative.
 
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This study shows that “Stand your Ground” laws lead to an increase in preventable violent deaths. They also show no positive effect on public safety and/or deterring violence.

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“Stand Your Ground” Self-defense Laws and Statewide Rates of Homicides and Firearm Homicides

This cohort study evaluates the association of “stand your ground” laws with US homicide and firearm rates nationally and by state.
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I and why should we believe a bunch of Italians from London writing against our guns in a clearly left-leaning magazine?!!!11!!!!

/s of course
 
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It's funny how different the message is holding a gun, when you you can expect to be shot back at.
 
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