Mob storms Capitol

theSeb said:
As insane as that sounds, I think you are right. It does seem that they indeed expected this to work. They all need to be tried and imprisoned. You cannot tolerate, nor reason with, cancer. You cannot hold an olive branch to it and ask for reconciliation. You have to fight cancer.

This fits in nicely to demonstrate the elements of how far the cancer goes

www.theguardian.com

Donald Trump fans cry betrayal as he rebukes Capitol violence

On Parler and 4chan Trumpists write of feeling ‘like puking’ as president says those who ‘broke law will pay’
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Agreed. Every one of them.
 
Saw this. Thought it was funny.

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To put things simply: if we don't make an example of the people responsible for this now, it will happen again. Impeachment is more a symbolic gesture at this point, one I can take or leave. What we really need to see happen are more than a few federal charges being tossed about, and a good trial or ten.
 
theSeb said:
Politicians always sailed the line between truth and lie, but Trump obviously just does not care. Even in his video message yesterday he started off by lying that he called for national guard to be deployed. Today is a different story, because it's a different day I guess. And twitter is still enabling this.

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Yesterday I tried to put myself in the shoes of Twitter's leadership. Trump likely generates a substantial volume of their traffic (my guess is 25-40%). If they cut him off one day to another, that would create a very steep drop in twitter active daily users and drop in stocks. Twitter helped build and then continued enabling this shit, and they are totally hooked now. They know they can't keep Trump on their platform, but they want to buy time and dampen the fall. This just makes me even less fond of that platform. We know that no-censure right wing platforms aren't longitudinally viable because it disproportionately draws in fringe elements.

Even this forum largely draws in people with a certain mindset. It works and nice, because the active users aren't insane, and are here for real discussion. But if the purpose of this forum were to generate comparable traffic to MR, it would fail, no matter how bad the otherlands are because it largely lacks to polarization that motivates higher utilization.
 
Renzatic said:
To put things simply: if we don't make an example of the people responsible for this now, it will happen again. Impeachment is more a symbolic gesture at this point, one I can take or leave. What we really need to see happen are more than a few federal charges being tossed about, and a good trial or ten.
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It occurred to me after listening again --yeah, with difficulty-- to tRump's obviously stage-managed video, that not only did it include an acknowledgment that it's not Trump who will be iinaugurated on Jan 20th, but that peaceful transition is called for and will occur and that rule of law must prevail.

He was trying to tell his base to chill for now, throwing in that line about how this is just the beginning.

(don't think Limbaugh heard the "chill" part).​
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In the interim no matter how short that may be, I would expect the feds to make a strong showing of consequence for what happened on Wednesday.

Reality TV presidency is one thing, starring in a real bust and prosecution and sentencing to 10 years or more in the slam is something else. Time for that chapter to drop on a news streaming platform near all of us. For once I can see cable TV running a tight loop of something but their bottom line fascination will probably result in their picking the wrong clips as usual.
 
P_X said:
Yesterday I tried to put myself in the shoes of Twitter's leadership. Trump likely generates a substantial volume of their traffic (my guess is 25-40%). If they cut him off one day to another, that would create a very steep drop in twitter active daily users and drop in stocks. Twitter helped build and then continued enabling this shit, and they are totally hooked now. They know they can't keep Trump on their platform, but they want to buy time and dampen the fall. This just makes me even less fond of that platform. We know that no-censure right wing platforms aren't longitudinally viable because it disproportionately draws in fringe elements.

Even this forum largely draws in people with a certain mindset. It works and nice, because the active users aren't insane, and are here for real discussion. But if the purpose of this forum were to generate comparable traffic to MR, it would fail, no matter how bad the otherlands are because it largely lacks to polarization that motivates higher utilization.
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But, irrespective of the attraction to advertisers of increased traffic volumes - which (as MR and Twitter - not to mention FB, have all discovered, soars further when you play host to the far Right), there is the delicate balancing act that is both challenging and inevitable, as European authorities (principally the EU) address issues of regulation, and oversight (and tax).

If you cannot regulate yourself, and demonstrate and signal to European governments that you are willing to take some responsibility for the content posted by the mad mobs (and their enablers), on the platforms that you own, or host, content that poses a threat to democratic governance and structures, it will be done for you.
 
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If you enjoy irony, here's some information about the casualties in the assault to the capitol.

- Apparently, one of them brought a taser concealed in his pants, and tased himself in the balls until he died of a heart attack. (he had previously published pictures of himself with several guns tucked into his pants, so certainly possible)

- The police officer killed by a mob of Trump supporters was himself a Trump supporter.

- The woman who got trampled to death was carrying a "Don't Tread on Me" flag earlier that day.
 
theSeb said:
Politicians always sailed the line between truth and lie, but Trump obviously just does not care. Even in his video message yesterday he started off by lying that he called for national guard to be deployed. Today is a different story, because it's a different day I guess. And twitter is still enabling this.

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Exactly. What they need to do is say Scotland said okay.

Black out the windows.

Land in Gitmo.
 

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