Maybe, but maybe not.
Curious BTW, would you be willing to review the transcripts of the interviews these single sentence snippets were taken from? Are you willing to do the work, or do you really take videos like this at face value?Hard to argue what comes directly out of their mouths. Although I am sure some here will try.
It’s not though. The “anti-mandate” instead of “anti-vaccine” was a fake pivot by the usual suspects, hoping to get some recruits at the event. But at the event itself, they jumped right back on the crazy train.
The article I posted should take you far less time for you to read than it took me to listen to the podcast; it explains how they tried to change the message to attract more people… with very limited success.
Here’s a bit more coverage of the rally:
A disgraced progressive PR professional and a host of anti-vax celebrities: the disjointed coalition against vaccine mandates marches on Washington.www.vice.com
I don’t even understand why people listen to podcasts. if you need to listen to YouTube videos and podcasts to formulate your opinion on politics, then that was your first step in the wrong direction.
Anybody that is pro-vaccine, and anti-mandate doesn’t understand science.,The vaccine needs to go into as many arms as possible. The best way to do that is a mandate. Look at the military… over 96% vaccinated, and less than .02% death rate… 100x lower than the rest of the country. PS - ALL 52 Military members that died of COVID did NOT get fully vaccinated.I realize shortly after I attempted to clarify myself that I wasn't clear enough, but by that time I was already in my car on the way home, a real "Fuck! I left the oven on!" just as the plane left the runway moment.
Seems like you get it though from the articles you posted, anti-vax and anti-mandate aren't the same thing. Now if pro-vax/anti-mandate people are showing up, as stated probably in limited numbers, because of some dishonest PR campaign that's possible, but the sources I follow were skeptical of the mandates before actual protests about it were a thing. As an example I know this is most likely a right wing talking point, but that's not where I am getting it from. What's with the arbitrary 100 employee number? What's the science behind that? It's the healthcare equivalent of saying we can solve illegal immigration by building a wall on less than 1/4 of the US perimeter.
There's no harm in applying critical thinking skills, maybe look for corroborating evidence (check scopes, politifact, or any non-alt-right sites) prior to posting "Space aliens just anal-probed me"Gluing yourself to mainstream media is a much better idea and you'll be the most informed.
That’s the other thing that also amuses me. Repubs genuinely believe that finding something bad about cnn is going to be a “gotcha” moment and will be upset non-repubs. It’s an interesting form of projection that should be studied by psychologists to dive deeper into some people’s unhealthy relationships with their sources of news.
This is the problem, if you really want to be informed, you actually have to do your actual research. Which involves a lot of reading.Gluing yourself to mainstream media is a much better idea and you'll be the most informed.
This is where we disagree a little bit, and this is a major ethics dilemma. The science is absolutely clear about that if we want to save as many lives as possible, then we need to vaccinate as many people as possible. In a society that values the life of those who were actually born as the most sacred of all things, getting vaccinated is the most congruent thing to do with this value system. However, is it ethical to force people if human life only has secondary value in their value system? Plenty to debate about. Except for healthcare. No space for debate there. And a military that allows its service members to be vulnerable biological warfare is straight up laughable. After all it's called military and not militia. However, I do think that people who wanton waste healthcare resources should contribute proportionally more to healthcare funding.Anybody that is pro-vaccine, and anti-mandate doesn’t understand science.,The vaccine needs to go into as many arms as possible. The best way to do that is a mandate. Look at the military… over 96% vaccinated, and less than .02% death rate… 100x lower than the rest of the country. PS - ALL 52 Military members that died of COVID did NOT get fully vaccinated.
I don't even watch cable news, I watch local newscasts and the nightly news on either ABC or NBC to get the highlights of what's going on. To these people I think those would be considered "mainstream media" and they're simply reporting the news with no spin one way or the other.I'll be honest and say that once people start talking about "mainstream media" I tend to switch off and move on. However, in this case, I'll ask a few questions.
What do you consider mainstream media?
Is a podcaster with around 10 to 12 million listeners in a multi million pound deal to produce podcasts mainstream media?
It’s very telling when right-wingers post a “gotcha” about CNN. They assume all liberals watch it because the high viewership of Fox by middle-aged and older conservatives. They assume that since Fox is clearly and obviously right-wing propaganda, that CNN is therefore left-wing propaganda... and that every other news except Fox is also left-wing propaganda.Who is trying to find fault constantly with Fox here and presenting little snippets as gotchas against you?
But for some reason they can't be trusted and you hear stuff like "listen to this trusted youtuber, they have an inside scoop" or "This trusted doctor is questioning the vaccine, you should read this article about the benefits of Ivermectin" kind of stuff that breeds ignorance or makes you a "critical thinker".
Dr. with 50 years of experience: "You have an infection that if not treated with antibiotics will kill you within days"
Me who just listened to a podcast: "I think I'll do my own research"
It’s very telling when right-wingers post a “gotcha” about CNN. They assume all liberals watch it because the high viewership of Fox by middle-aged and older conservatives.