Musk offers to buy Twitter

[Eric]

He’s saying that he will leave up hate speech. I’m out.

I would argue that it never really stopped, it's just gained ground x500% since he took over.

 

[Cmaier]

I would argue that it never really stopped, it's just gained ground x500% since he took over.

Twitter was trying. Now their official policy is that they won’t. That’s a big enough difference to matter to me.

 

[Pumbaa]

At least he hired back Ligma and Johnson.

Saw a tweet about that and initially thought it was one of those jokes.

 

[Herdfan]

Saw a tweet about that and initially thought it was one of those jokes.

It is. A couple of reporters fell for it.

Initially these 2 guys came walking out of Twitter HQ carrying boxes and reporters came up to them asking what was happening and they said they were fired from Twitter and their names were Ligma and Johnson. Without verifying anything, the reporters ran with the story. Of course, they put it on Twitter.

Then Musk, who loves to troll, posed with them and said they were hired back. And more reporters fell for it.

Guess they never saw this:

 

[Eric]

It is. A couple of reporters fell for it.

Initially these 2 guys came walking out of Twitter HQ carrying boxes and reporters came up to them asking what was happening and they said they were fired from Twitter and their names were Ligma and Johnson. Without verifying anything, the reporters ran with the story. Of course, they put it on Twitter.

Then Musk, who loves to troll, posed with them and said they were hired back. And more reporters fell for it.

Guess they never saw this:

To be fair, had Musk not delegitimized literally every credible account it would have never been an issue. At this point no account is safe or trustworthy, it took them years to establish what Musk tore down in a matter of weeks.

 

[lizkat]

Does Musk think that saying "Negative/hate tweets will be max deboosted & demonetized, so no ads or other revenue to Twitter" means anything to either users or regulators? Guy is nuts.

So his idea was what... to run a gigantic unmoderated database and make money how exactly?

The longer Musk goes on with his chaotic rollout of "new Twitter," the less I believe he had really thought through any sort of actual business plan, or even a comprehensive vision for how the platform should be changed for users and advertisers.

He just ended up having to go through with a transaction that he bumbled into (and didn't really want to consummate) after running his mouth about buying it and throwing some dough into a significant and pointedly hostile stake after initial responses were like "go away."

That had set his teeth on edge, and he dug in with an offer too good to refuse, but without sense of what he'd do if and when he finally dragged the prize into his den. Now it's backing him into all kinds of corners.

He's like Trump, can't stand changing tack after he's declared a course setting. But he's having to do it anyway --and so that has become a set of chaotic, reactive experiments-- and the one thing he should do (step back entirely from mangement) is too humiliating, but maybe also now too late.

 

[Eric]

And now this...

 

[Andropov]

This is going to be fun.

 

[Eric]

You have to wonder how long it can sustain with such a huge loss like this.

Elon Musk’s Twitter Teeters on the Edge After Another 1,200 Leave (Published 2022)

Mr. Musk sent emails on Friday asking to learn about Twitter’s underlying technology as key infrastructure teams have been decimated.

www.nytimes.com

Elon Musk’s Twitter Teeters on the Edge After Another 1,200 Leave​

Mr. Musk sent emails on Friday asking to learn about Twitter’s underlying technology as key infrastructure teams have been decimated.

 

[Cmaier]

Wait until apple bans Twitter from the App Store. “We aren’t going to take down hate speech - we will just demonetize it” isn’t going to fly with apple.

 

[Eric]

Wait until apple bans Twitter from the App Store. “We aren’t going to take down hate speech - we will just demonetize it” isn’t going to fly with apple.

Aren't they allowing the download of Truth Social though? It would be nice to see Apple and Android banning this sort of hate speech.

 

[Alli]

Wait until apple bans Twitter from the App Store. “We aren’t going to take down hate speech - we will just demonetize it” isn’t going to fly with apple.

Do you ever see (first-hand) any hate speech? The only time I see it is when someone I follow quotes it, either from Twitter, TS, or a newspaper. I’m not likely to ever see it first-hand as I don’t follow those people. I’ve even stopped following people who insist on posting articles about the traitor tots, Roger Stone, and Steve Bannon.

 

[Cmaier]

Aren't they allowing the download of Truth Social though? It would be nice to see Apple and Android banning this sort of hate speech.

yeah, but they monitor truth social’s moderation policies, and there may be one of these situations where certain stuff doesn’t show up in the app that does show up on the website (there was some other network that worked that way). I think truth social is mostly conspiracy theories and stupidity, and not so much hate speech, but since I don’t hang out there I’m not sure.

 

[rdrr]

And now this...

Didn't know where my line was until I saw that. If yes means a TFG reinstatement, I am out!

 

[lizkat]

And now this...

Musk reminds me more and more of accounts one can see anywhere on Twitter, the real or self-proclaimed celebrities seeking attention hourly or daily with banal or provocative tweets and requests to "RT if you agree!"

Trump can't afford to get reinstated on Twitter. His Truth Social platform would be decimated. Over there he has a concentration of followers and potential donors (along with a smattering of people managing to lurk or blend in and so far not get banned lol).

Musk should have walked away from the acquisition. He'd be richer today and his other companies would be less endangered. And Twitter would still be trying to stay functional during the World Cup matches in Qatar, but with less anxiety: the company would still have all its engineers instead of gaping vulnerabilities plus a pile of regulators waiting to pull the plug as soon as those matches are over or when Twitter collapses, whichever comes first.

 

[mac_in_tosh]

Sheesh. When I first saw the Reinstate Trump poll here I thought it meant 60% of respondents wanted him reinstated as president but it's only about reinstating him in Twitter (which would be bad enough).

 

[Macky-Mac]

...Trump can't afford to get reinstated on Twitter. His Truth Social platform would be decimated....

the way things are going, Trump might be able to buy Twitter at a fire sale price and incorporate it into Truth Social

 

[lizkat]

the way things are going, Trump might be able to buy Twitter at a fire sale price and incorporate it into Truth Social

Musk has tweeted that he will reinstate Trump's account. So far Trump sounds like not rejoining.

 

[Macky-Mac]

Musk has tweeted that he will reinstate Trump's account. So far Trump sounds like not rejoining.

he wouldn't need to rejoin.....Twitter, what's left of it anyway, would be merged into Truth Social and vanish as an independent brand........(parody!.....where's my blue check?)

 

[lizkat]

he wouldn't need to rejoin.....Twitter, what's left of it anyway, would be merged into Truth Social and vanish as an independent brand........(parody!.....where's my blue check?)

Trump won't have the money to buy Twitter once he gets done shelling out for lawyers. Not even if Twitter ends up bankrupt and the receiver looking to sell it for what to at least pay off the banks at maybe 40c on the dollar.