Musk offers to buy Twitter

Good luck with that, Elmo.

I read this yesterday. Totally delusional. Had to re-check it was truly him. Microsoft + Nokia couldn't do it, how does he think Twitter (actually, 10% of Twitter's engineers) could do it?
 
I read this yesterday. Totally delusional. Had to re-check it was truly him. Microsoft + Nokia couldn't do it, how does he think Twitter (actually, 10% of Twitter's engineers) could do it?
He's got the money to burn and we now know he couldn't care less about losing billions on a new business venture as long as he can troll those who disagree with it.
 
I read this yesterday. Totally delusional. Had to re-check it was truly him.
Totally delusional sounds totally on-brand. But I get it. Like with Trump, the real thing is indistinguishable from satire (or even crazier).

Microsoft + Nokia couldn't do it, how does he think Twitter (actually, 10% of Twitter's engineers) could do it?
He’ll probably try to buy Freedom Phone or rebrand a cheap chinese Android phone or something. It will at best work out about as well as his takeover of Twitter.
 
What's really amusing is him believing it'll be easy attracting engineering talent well-versed with a *demonstrated* background in various aspects of modern communications theory, cellular telephony systems engineering (starting with it being a fine art simply interpreting air-interface standards specifications to one's favor), and IC/ASIC design assuming they ultimately want to go home-grown and do it right.

And ultimately being ok dealing with Musk and his management style.
 
What's really amusing is him believing it'll be easy attracting engineering talent well-versed with a *demonstrated* background in various aspects of modern communications theory, cellular telephony systems engineering (starting with it being a fine art simply interpreting air-interface standards specifications to one's favor), and IC/ASIC design assuming they ultimately want to go home-grown and do it right.

And ultimately being ok dealing with Musk and his management style.
Very much like Trump, yes men who do nothing but kiss the ring and bend over. No job or salary (which as I understand it are shit anyway) are worth that. Keep your dignity and get a job where you'll be appreciated for your skills, there is still a lot of work out there in the tech sector and I'm sure those he's canned are being heavily courted by recruiters for companies that care about your work/life balance.
 
I know I'm not going to win any popularity contests with what I'm about to say, but I'll play the part of captain contrarian. Hold tight and prepare for liftoff, because I'm about to humanize the devil.

Human memory is a very malleable thing. It's soft, pliant, plastic. The things that we remember aren't necessarily what actually happened. One of my favorite sayings is "history isn't the past", one just needs to read Herodotus to know that. Our memories are particularly bad during a traumatic event. The survivors of the Titanic have entirely different accounts of what actually happened. Allegedly, some witnessed a suicide of a deck officer, something depicted in the James Cameron movie, but nobody agrees on the details. Also, it never happened. 50% of survivors remember the ship breaking into two, the other half have no recollection of that event. Part of that may be due to weather conditions, still it's difficult to miss a gigantic ship torn asunder, but most folks were in survival mode.

Losing a new born child I think qualifies as a traumatic incident. It's entirely possible that Elon and his ex-wife have completely different memories of what transpired, neither is lying, they simply remember it differently. I'm sure they both held him during his final moments, the details are likely foggy. Sure, one of them could by lying, but that's not certain, and I tend to think they both see it as one of the worst, if not the worst, moments of their lives.

Also, they both have motive to portray themselves in a better light. My own parents had an ugly divorce, said horrible things about each other that weren't factually true, and our family never really recovered. Justine and Elon are probably not on the best of terms.

I have a hard time relating to Elon Musk. He thinks differently than most people; he's mercurial, impulsive, very rich, and extremely successful (recent Twitter escapades aside). I've heard a lot of negative things about him recently, but I don't think most of his detractors think that he is unintelligent. You can't be responsible for building fancy electric automobiles or fabulous rocket ships if you aren't smart. My point isn't to make him into some super genius. As I've said previously, I really don't have strong feelings about him, I just don't think that he is a super villain, either.

Now, I'm about to bring up somebody else who is probably not popular around these parts, Joe Rogan. No, I'm not attempting to make excuses for this fellow. I used to casually listen to Rogan before he went off into moonbat territory. He seemed to be making progress, before COVID denial and the the New York Times article on the UAP (UFO) phenomenon. Level-headed folks like Neil deGrasse Tyson were molding him into a more reasonable person. Then he started having Travis Walton and Bob Lazar on, and he went back into conspiracy land. I don't listen to Joe Rogan anymore, for obvious reasons.

Anyway, I just wanted to clarify my stance on Rogan. Honestly, I think he's far more damaging than Musk, but that's a different topic entirely. The thing about Joe Rogan is that I don't think he lies about his beliefs, fanciful and childlike as they are, and he has no reason to lie about his interaction with Elon Musk. I'm sure most of us are aware of the interview that he did with Musk, it's become a meme with Elon toking on some suspicious plant material. Like a lot of folks, I watched it back in the day, just out of curiosity. (The only thing I remember was Musk summarily dismissing Rogan's UFO nonsense, which I appreciated.)

After the interview, Joe Rogan was asked about Musk behind the scenes. According to Rogan, Musk's demeanor shifted once the interview started. He was friendly and personable, but once the camera and microphone were on, he became guarded and distant. This doesn't surprise me, many people act different in a highly public interview. Other than Rogan making comments about how happy Musk seemed while showing him the flamethrower that he brought with him backstage, I don't recall much else.

However, the one time I found Elon Musk to be relatable, as a living, breathing, human being, was when Joe Rogan recounted an interaction after a simple question. When the cameras were off, and he was alone with Musk, he simply asked him if he enjoyed his life, his money, his success, his talent, his fame, was Elon happy? Musk's response was simple, when he flatly responded with "you wouldn't want to be me".

It's a documented fact that mental illness affects people that are higher on the IQ scale than the average person. This includes depression, anxiety, bi-polar disorder, ADHD, and schizophrenia, among many others. Just as an example, here's a partial except from the journal Intelligence:

"The results showed that highly intelligent people are 20% more likely to be diagnosed with autism spectrum disorder (ASD), 80% more likely to be diagnosed with ADHD, 83% more likely to be diagnosed with anxiety, and 182% more likely to develop at least one mood disorder."

I wouldn't be surprised if Musk suffers from one or more such maladies. I'm not a mental health professional, and not diagnosing him via Joe Rogan's words. I'm just pointing out that you really don't know what is inside someone's head at any given moment. Unless Elon is one of Rogan's little green men in disguise, chances are he's more like the rest of us on the inside than we might like to admit.

Whether you believe Joe Rogan's account of Elon Musk's opinion of his life is up to you. I'm not making excuses for any real or perceived behavior. I've already made my thoughts on their public personas clear. What I do know is that when Musk apparently said "you wouldn't want to be me", I can relate to him, which I haven't been able to do, otherwise.
How about you summarize what you mean to say about Musk? In a few words what do you think is good vs bad about him?

IMO, there is NOTHING good about Musk’s acquisition of Twitter. Before he stuck me as a somewhat eccentric billionaire who must have a genius business sense by virtue of being a billionaire. Now he strikes me as an unmitigated disaster and danger to the well being of the country, a one way, my way or the highway, billionaire hypocrite who has the financial muscle to turn the USA on it’s head so he can get his way, whether it be his business, Govt oversight of his business, or a calculation that aligning with fascist nationalist forces (MAGA) is to his advantage.

What has happened at Twitter is by all accounts except for being a boon for Trump forces is a disaster for democracy as Musk steps out of his closet, puts on his black cape and declares the World according to Musk. At Twitter, he has reinstated Shit Heads, the head Shit Head, Proud Boys are reported to be flooding back onto Twitter, while MR Everyone Deserves A Voice (HAH!) bans a group that protects LBGQT Events.

Ask yourself why he supports the spreaders of dis-information. Without an in-depth psychological profile, one can only assume he is either blind to the danger inherent in mass media or he has become a willing and active Right Wing provocateur, who thinks only in terms of possible advantages for himyself, his financial empire, and possibly he has crawled right up Trump’s ass and finds it warm and cozy there for his bloated Ego.

There is little doubt the corruption of Twitter is a turn of events in the Dark Side‘s favor. If you care about Democracy in America, IMO you have plenty of grounds to be worried Musk’s actions.

 
This clearly isn't a well-formed thought, but occasionally I wonder if Musk's hoping trump will be the R nominee, and will thus use twitter for stirring up his base bigly, returning the platform to "free speech" nutjob glory along with MTG, Kanye, and other supporting actors. Or something like that.
 
This clearly isn't a well-formed thought, but occasionally I wonder if Musk's hoping trump will be the R nominee, and will thus use twitter for stirring up his base bigly, returning the platform to "free speech" nutjob glory along with MTG, Kanye, and other supporting actors. Or something like that.
I'll be surprised if Trump doesn't get a full throated endorsement from Musk but at this point how much weight would that carry with anyone outside of the existing base. MAGA loves the guy, but they're already MAGA. 🤷‍♂️
 
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure they're all saying "fuck my non-compete and NDA that I signed at Twitter". :). There will be companies in the Bay Area that benefit greatly from Musk's recklessness.
Not sure Twitter used either of those. Someone asking for a non-compete in California (it has happened to me) signals to me that they're idiots.

How about you summarize what you mean to say about Musk? In a few words what do you think is good vs bad about him?

I don't think there is a summary. I think he's cosplaying a chatbot.
 
An otherwise smart engineer friend of mine likes to insist to me that Elon Musk has the Midas touch; every company he touches turns to gold (SpaceX, Tesla) so how could Twitter be any different? He did great things for Paypal, SpaceX, Tesla, why should we have any reason to doubt that his plans for Twitter will similarly work out well?

Tell me the thing I need to say to him to set him straight.
 
An otherwise smart engineer friend of mine likes to insist to me that Elon Musk has the Midas touch; every company he touches turns to gold (SpaceX, Tesla) so how could Twitter be any different? He did great things for Paypal, SpaceX, Tesla, why should we have any reason to doubt that his plans for Twitter will similarly work out well?

Tell me the thing I need to say to him to set him straight.
IMO he's great at fundraising, a gifted salesman with the right drive and big ideas which has paid off for companies like Tesla or SpaceX. Twitter is something completely different though, the ability to build next-level rockets is completely different than running a social media company. He's completely out of his lane here and it shows on every front, he can't mold "people" into his vision of a car or rocket.
 
Tell me the thing I need to say to him to set him straight.
I wish I knew. When NFTs and “the Metaverse” were getting hyped up, there was suddenly a lot of talk about it on my team. I was the only one suggesting it might not all be butterflies and rainbows, and I honestly started feeling like I was out of touch.

The tech industry, in all honesty, is filled with folks that are looking for solutions to problems that don’t exist because it’s a new application of technology, or trying to find the next disruptive idea that they can hitch onto to try to make it big. There’s fewer folks thinking about the ethical implications of what they are building than even I would have thought. And hey, I was well aware of the predatory behavior of today’s video games.

If anything Musk is the poster child for this sort of thinking.

He managed Paypal, SpaceX, and Tesla before going insane, and falling in love with himself. We're talking about Musk post-Thailand children's submarine rescue incident here.
While persuasive, probably not accurate. It seems that SpaceX and Tesla manage Musk more than the other way around.
 
An otherwise smart engineer friend of mine likes to insist to me that Elon Musk has the Midas touch; every company he touches turns to gold (SpaceX, Tesla) so how could Twitter be any different? He did great things for Paypal, SpaceX, Tesla, why should we have any reason to doubt that his plans for Twitter will similarly work out well?

Tell me the thing I need to say to him to set him straight.

Tell your friend this: someone finally told Elon Musk NO, and he's been flashing the colors of an unhinged narcissist ever since then. He's gonna show the world you don't say NO to him. No sir. He'll burn that blue bird to the ground after being forced to buy it against his will (instead of going to court and losing and having to buy it plus paying court costs) and now in his rage, rage, rage, there ain't nobody capable of stopping him from burning up the whole $44bn, not all of which is even his to burn.

Gotta love the bankers standing around thinking this can end well for them somehow. They never even got to securitize the debt and now they're going to end up eating it if they can't find a mark to take it off their balance sheets "as is"...

A couple of vultures board an airplane, dragging some mangled roadkill between them with their beaks. The flight attendant eyeballs the stuff after getting a whiff of the stench and says "Ugh, I think that needed to go in checked luggage in a very special container, so let me try to arrange for that."

And the vultures say “No thanks, we're good. It's carrion, we'll have it for lunch."
 
It seems a lot of newsies/political people going to post while more technical people are going to mastodon but a lot to both sites - just my anecdotal observation so far. I’m still waiting to see how things shake out in terms of where people move.



Aye.



Yup he’s been quoting and approve-replying to some of the worst accounts on Twitter - real white nationalist/fascist personalities.
And misogynists.

Elon's attitudes to women also leave an awful lot to be desired.
 
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