Russia-Ukraine

[Eric]

Personal - and puerile - insults in lieu of any intelligent thought, or analysis?

Seriously, this is pathetic, puerile, and imbecilic, and so idiotically juvenile. But, unfortunately, all too predictable.

You should really try saying some of this stuff out loud before you post it some time.

 

[Cmaier]

You should really try saying some of this stuff out loud before you post it some time.

I know. I‘m hurt, injured, damaged and impaired by her words, remarks, comments, and locutions.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

You should really try saying some of this stuff out loud before you post it some time.

And you should be - perhaps - a little more thoughtful before advocating assassination so blithely, with such casual and irresponsible insouciance - as a solution for political problems.

 

[Eric]

And you should be - perhaps - a little more thoughtful before advocating assassination so blithely, with such casual and irresponsible insouciance - as a solution for political problems.

He deserves to die to end this war, your pretentious nonsensical word-salad posts aren't going to change my mind. Try a little empathy, If it were your family that he targeted you would change your tune.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

He deserves to die to end this war, your pretentious nonsensical word-salad posts aren't going to change my mind. Try a little empathy, If it were your family that he targeted you would change your tune.

Try argument, not insult.

Try something intelligent, and informed, please.

Not the irrational and capricious outbursts that characterize the tone, temper and content of some of your posts.

That is, something informed by knowledge, not irrational and capricious outbursts. (And changing your mind - such as it is - on anything - as I have learned from experience - is a task quite beyond my current skill set).

Anyway: Why does the idea of being guided by the rule of law offend you so much?

Are you Arn, or Elon Musk?

 

[Eric]

Try argument, not insult.

One of the reasons it's hard for you to offend me is because after the first few words of one of your insufferable rants this is all I see before moving on.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

One of the reasons it's hard for you to offend me is because after the first few words of one of your insufferable rants this is all I see before moving on.

Yeah, whatever.

Offend you?

I'm not sure you can be offended.

Still less are you capable of engaging in dialogue, especially when your posts on these topic are trite insults or pathetic and puerile (and illiterate) memes.

Still: Pearls before swine.....what can I say?

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Anyway, @Eric:

Advocating assassination is not a good look.

Forget me, I'm a wimpy European: I mean, I have worked in Ukraine, Russia, Georgia, Afghanistan, Somalia, Bosnia, Kosovo, Belarus, etc, etc, as a senior adviser on political and electoral matters.....so, what do I know, eh?

But, you know, someday, you may want to attract advertisers.

Now, I know: Americans think that killing children in schools is up there with the Second Amendment.

And people with uteruses deserve to die.

And people of color, well, we know you (you plural) like to kill them, as well.

However, advertisers (capitalists cowards) may run scared of platforms that advocate assassination (rather than seeking to gather evidence, arraign someone, and have them face trial).....just saying:

If you want to make money (in a post Twitter universe), you may wish to....ah, temper... your enthusiasm for irrational bloodshed. Not all advertisers care for this.

 

[Colstan]

I usually stay out of food fights, but this has been great fun. I'm sure Mr. Putin will quite happily go to court to prove his innocence. Maybe a judge will rule he needs anger management classes. Serial killers need emotional counseling, rapists need to get in touch with their feelings, genocidal war criminals need understanding and support to see the error of their ways. Maybe a complementary food basket and parting gift, so that everyone will come to a mutual understanding and respect one another.

Oh dear, and while I was writing this, another gem appeared. Oh this is fantastic. Not only is it time for Putin to willingly submit himself to justice, we need to get a few shots in at the capitalist bourgeoisie, all in the name of the proletariat. Oh, and tarring and feathering an entire country, too. This isn't typical socialist pablum, but moonbat territory.

Keep it up @Scepticalscribe, you're totally convincing me with your one sentence paragraphs and personal internet outrage.

 

[Deleted member 215]

@Scepticalscribe is 100% right here.

@Eric and @Cmaier the both of you need to calm your tits. This is what pisses me off most about libs; they won't hesitate to eat their own. You guys barely even disagree on this, yet here you are jumping on someone over disagreement with your own emotional reactions to this conflict.

 

[Cmaier]

@Scepticalscribe is 100% right here.

@Eric and @Cmaier the both of you need to calm your tits. This is what pisses me off most about libs; they won't hesitate to eat their own. You guys barely even disagree on this, yet here you are jumping on someone over disagreement with your own emotional reactions to this conflict.

I barely disagree? I believe i disagree entirely. I believe that anyone who does what Putin does not only deserves to die from a moral perspective, but that killing him is the only rational solution. How many million people does he have to murder and rape before it‘s ok to talk about killing him?

 

[Scepticalscribe]

@Scepticalscribe is 100% right here.

@Eric and @Cmaier the both of you need to calm your tits. This is what pisses me off most about libs; they won't hesitate to eat their own. You guys barely even disagree on this, yet here you are jumping on someone over disagreement with your own emotional reactions to this conflict.

Well said.

And thank you.

And nowhere have I defended Mr Putin. Or his actions. Not least because they are indefensible.

However, I merely think that the rule of law matters, and that he should face trial in a competent (and legitimate) and recognized - court of law, rather than suggest assassination as a recommended solution.

Leaving morality aside (and one cannot, for this is also a moral matter), one cannot, credibly, advocate assassination, and then recommend to Russia (and others) that they construct a (post-Putin) state buttressed by the rule of law. It doesn't work like that.

 

[Eric]

@Scepticalscribe is 100% right here.

@Eric and @Cmaier the both of you need to calm your tits. This is what pisses me off most about libs; they won't hesitate to eat their own. You guys barely even disagree on this, yet here you are jumping on someone over disagreement with your own emotional reactions to this conflict.

Yes, show us how wrong we are by acting just like you are preaching against, this hypocrisy while acting like your above it all is laughable. Seriously man, get over yourself.

 

[Eric]

I barely disagree? I believe i disagree entirely. I believe that anyone who does what Putin does not only deserves to die from a moral perspective, but that killing him is the only rational solution. How many million people does he have to murder and rape before it‘s ok to talk about killing him?

This same crowd jumped me for saying the same thing about Hitler, the “well that would’ve been hasty” when talking about taking out a man responsible for killing 6 million Jews pretty much sets the tone.

BTW @TBL since you brought political sides to it what you are advocating is extremely Liberal, learn what party represents your positions before preaching to others about theirs.

 

[Cmaier]

This same crowd jumped me for saying the same thing about Hitler, the “well that would’ve been hasty” when talking about taking out a man responsible for killing 6 million Jews pretty much sets the tone.

BTW @TBL since you brought political sides to it what you are advocating is extremely Liberal, learn what party represents your positions before preaching to others about theirs.

I would have happily snuffed baby hitler if i had a Time Machine and free saturday.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

I would have happily snuffed baby hitler if i had a Time Machine and free saturday.

That also assumes that you possessed the fortuitous gift of foresight in addition to your Time Machine and (a) Free Saturday.

 

[Yoused]

This same crowd jumped me for saying the same thing about Hitler

Here is the problem: Hitler is a martyr. There are thousands of Americans who think he has been treated poorly by history, and that is partly because he was allowed to do the right thing by killing Hitler. Imagine if we had had chance to see him do the walk of shame, to be locked up in a dungeon for 25 years to share his food with rats and roaches, to be utterly humilialed and degraded. But, instead, he died his way out of shame, and so a segment of the population still reveres him. Lunatics with lots of guns.

Killing the bad guy is ingrained in our psyches, in part because we want this bad thing (whatever it may be) to be over. It is the visceral and facile answer to our frustrations and desire for recompense, but in the end, it always comes back to bite us in the ass.

I mean, I fully understand the anger, and have been caught up in the bloodlust myself. But H.L.Mencken said that for every problem we have, there isa solution that is clean, simple and wrong. In this case, very wrong. It might solve our problem right now, but our descendants will be coping with the repercussions, and those will almost certainly be worse. But, at least we all will be pushing up daisies ourselves by then, so that much will be not our problem.

 

[Yoused]

And, while on the subject of violence and retribution,

'We know where your family live' - Ukrainian fighters face online death threats

A BBC investigation finds that Ukrainian soldiers and pro-Ukrainian activists are being targeted on Telegram.

www.bbc.com

We will, we will
Dox you!​

 

[Cmaier]

Here is the problem: Hitler is a martyr. There are thousands of Americans who think he has been treated poorly by history, and that is partly because he was allowed to do the right thing by killing Hitler. Imagine if we had had chance to see him do the walk of shame, to be locked up in a dungeon for 25 years to share his food with rats and roaches, to be utterly humilialed and degraded. But, instead, he died his way out of shame, and so a segment of the population still reveres him. Lunatics with lots of guns.

Killing the bad guy is ingrained in our psyches, in part because we want this bad thing (whatever it may be) to be over. It is the visceral and facile answer to our frustrations and desire for recompense, but in the end, it always comes back to bite us in the ass.

I mean, I fully understand the anger, and have been caught up in the bloodlust myself. But H.L.Mencken said that for every problem we have, there isa solution that is clean, simple and wrong. In this case, very wrong. It might solve our problem right now, but our descendants will be coping with the repercussions, and those will almost certainly be worse. But, at least we all will be pushing up daisies ourselves by then, so that much will be not our problem.

Every day people are dying and getting maimed and getting raped and having their children stolen and having their homes destroyed and their lives upended by this creep. Try explaining to them that we can‘t kill Putin, because if we do then something hypothetically worse can happen at some point in the future.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

Every day people are dying and getting maimed and getting raped and having their children stolen and having their homes destroyed and their lives upended by this creep. Try explaining to them that we can‘t kill Putin, because if we do then something hypothetically worse can happen at some point in the future.

And - forgive me - but, is this supposed to be an argument for the (hypothetical, rhetorical, retrospective) assassination of President L. B. Johnson, yes?

And, if so, yes, nevertheless, I still reject it.

Rule of law......standards....