lizkat
Watching March roll out real winter
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We don’t need courts... now that it’s evident the courts are not as corrupt as they had planned. Next he or some other loser will consider making the jump to just needing bullets.
Yeah.... this level of Trump's "lawyers" playing to Trump's die-hard base in order to hold them in thrall
(not really for the Georgia elections, just for the not yet unveiled next reality-TV production starring The Don... I mean do we still think Trump gives a fig for the Republican Party or its control of the US Senate?)
is fast running out of room in our actual and still quite functional legal and judicial systems.
This is the danger of mistaking what sphere one is operating in. It's one thing for followers to do that, quite another for a leader to encourage followers to make such mistakes. Followers who cross the line will encounter a real justice system (with mixed results at this point, let's face it). But leaders who incite crossing lines in an egregious manner still do pretty routinely end up facing charges like incitement to violence or conspiracy to commit specified crimes (among them fraud, witness intimidation, and yes interference with elections).
Giuliani seems to have got beyond his pay grade on spotting where the lines are any more. As for Donald Trump, it's been clear he never saw a rule or law he thought applied to him in the end, certainly not after the Senate acquitted him on the impeachment charges last winter. That doesn't mean the USA's judiciary or its legal system has collapsed.
What are these guys thinking? "Even if" they mean it all as street theatre until some media outlet can be persuaded there's a pot of gold awaiting whoever hosts the world's next Donald Trump TV show, that doesn't negate the reality of their behavior now, nor does it erase how that behavior is viewed under our rule of law and in our courts.
Remarkable that 40-odd dismissed sets of antics in court have not so far translated in the Trump crowd's books to "Wake Up This Show is Over." Can they really be thinking this Supreme Court is going to be the ace up sleeve to make bullets unnecessary in Trump's effort to remain in office? That's truly insane.
Which begs the question of how far they expect Trump's die-hard followers to go... in reality.
In reality I would expect there has been some discussion in the DoJ about this. And maybe between some state governors and the DoJ.
Be that as it may, I wish I could say I'm shocked that the Republican Party leadership is not making ongoing and coherent assertions these days about rule of law and peaceful transitions and putting Trump on public notice that the GSA's authorization of transition monies means the government fully expects the Electoral College to confirm Biden as the winner on December 14th.
But I'm not shocked because of how the likes of Ronna McDaniel, Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy and Lindsey Graham have played it so far. All this wordsmithing about counting "all legal" votes and countenancing without comment some close to disbarrable efforts of Trump lackey lawyers in state courts around the country... wow.
If the Republicans are actually playing a "well let's wait and see" game for Electoral College votes, they are either still such craven cowards in the face of a loud fringe of Trump cult members as the core of their potential base of voters --even having long since realized that packing the courts is their only way to keep power in future-- or else they are just flatly complicit in expecting Trump to pull off a fraudulent overturn of the 2020 presidential election.
Interesting times to live in. I've never seen a major party come this close to a moment where its behavior becomes seditious. Only a couple dozen elected officials at the federal level now acknowledge Biden as President-Elect, with the rest just keeping their counsel while the whole country (and the rest of the world) wonders what on earth the GOP can be thinking to burn itself down in this manner.
