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An educational institutional earns their place in These FUCKIN' guys, for being so fucking tasteless, and devaluing Black lives

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www.theguardian.com

Bones of Black children killed in police bombing used in Ivy League anthropology course

Remains of those killed in 1985 Move bombing in Philadelphia serve as ‘case study’ in Princeton-backed course
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The institutions have held on to the heavily burned fragments, and since 2019 have been deploying them for teaching purposes without the permission of the deceased’s living parents.
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For Fuck sakes!! Really?!! 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

It transpires that a Penn anthropologist, Alan Mann, acquired the remains after he was asked in the immediate aftermath of the bombing to provide specialist advice to the Philadelphia medical examiner in an attempt to identify the fragments. Mann kept possession of the bones, and in 2001 took them with him when he transferred to Princeton.
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Just "took them with him".

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JayMysteri0 said:
An educational institutional earns their place in These FUCKIN' guys, for being so fucking tasteless, and devaluing Black lives
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The laws in this area could really use an update. Next of kin arrange burial services and stuff, but they don't tend to have legal ownership of the remains. Because of this, they really need stronger protections.
 
thekev said:
The laws in this area could really use an update. Next of kin arrange burial services and stuff, but they don't tend to have legal ownership of the remains. Because of this, they really need stronger protections.
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I think where my outrage comes from is that if it were a White family hit by this tragedy, this would NOT even be considered a thing.

Like finding out the remains of the 25 children from Waco are the property of some college for their own academic use.

There's a history of this behavior from the likes of Henrietta Lacks to Tuskegee experiments. Where aren't even counting the experiments done on skulls of African Americans to prove that dumb ass belief that intelligence could be measured by skull size of Black men to White men.
 
JayMysteri0 said:
I think where my outrage comes from is that if it were a White family hit by this tragedy, this would NOT even be considered a thing.
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JayMysteri0 said:
Like finding out the remains of the 25 children from Waco are the property of some college for their own academic use.
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Yeah, I thought about this when I responded. White families, even if they're poor, are likely to have political capital. They can at the very least pressure their congressional representatives. Surviving relatives in these cases may not have that. They're dependent on the minimum legal protections. That's why I was suggesting that such laws need to be revisited. Native Americans have seemingly encountered similar issues. They're probably the canonical example here.

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Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (U.S. National Park Service)

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thekev said:
The laws in this area could really use an update. Next of kin arrange burial services and stuff, but they don't tend to have legal ownership of the remains. Because of this, they really need stronger protections.
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He'd not get approval from an institutional review board if he wanted to publish anything using these remains. It's also the sort of shit that basic human subjects research courses cover that I thus far had to do 5 times in the past 10 years.
 
P_X said:
He'd not get approval from an institutional review board if he wanted to publish anything using these remains. It's also the sort of shit that basic human subjects research courses cover that I thus far had to do 5 times in the past 10 years.
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That is a good point. My thoughts were that the laws should have prevented them from being dispensed to a research facility, as opposed to being turned over to next of kin.


JayMysteri0 said:
https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1386490128793800711/
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I guess Harris' staff members are still searching for the last horcrux.
 
JayMysteri0 said:
I think where my outrage comes from is that if it were a White family hit by this tragedy, this would NOT even be considered a thing.

Like finding out the remains of the 25 children from Waco are the property of some college for their own academic use.

There's a history of this behavior from the likes of Henrietta Lacks to Tuskegee experiments. Where aren't even counting the experiments done on skulls of African Americans to prove that dumb ass belief that intelligence could be measured by skull size of Black men to White men.
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Let's add that HeLa is an involuntary hero of biomedical research. The REAL problems of the present emerge from the fact that her genome is public, which means that a significant part of her relative's genomes is public domain. Something THEY have never consented for and cannot opt out of.

Even though we have a genetic non-discrimination act, genomes at today's tech cannot be de-identified. I've eavesdropped on two top geneticists chatting about future issues of their field, and they've said there's already a great interest to re-ID people from public genomics databases and capitalize on the individual level information extracted.
 
thekev said:
That is a good point. My thoughts were that the laws should have prevented them from being dispensed to a research facility, as opposed to being turned over to next of kin.
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Absolutely! This should be illegal. My point is that it's insanely unethical to a level it should prevent any sort of publication of data acquired using the remains.
 
It's Rand Paul it's a given he earns a spot here in a new week.

Trotting out that PRSI level B.S. of Democrats were racist once too, is just uncreative slop I've come to expect.

The John Lewis thing, that's just showing what dishonest faux intellectual shit he is.
 
JayMysteri0 said:
It's Rand Paul it's a given he earns a spot here in a new week.

Trotting out that PRSI level B.S. of Democrats were racist once too, is just uncreative slop I've come to expect.

The John Lewis thing, that's just showing what dishonest faux intellectual shit he is.
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Its like a reverse statute of limitations. Anything his party has done in the last 60 years should be ignored. Only focus on what happened before that.
 
You know, today I found out there actually is a fine line that you can cross to make the hardcore crazies turn against you.

...they still accuse you of being Antifa, of course, but you can only push fascism veiled with Americana so far, it seems.
 
JayMysteri0 said:
It's Rand Paul it's a given he earns a spot here in a new week.

Trotting out that PRSI level B.S. of Democrats were racist once too, is just uncreative slop I've come to expect.

The John Lewis thing, that's just showing what dishonest faux intellectual shit he is.
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That line, while true, is also extremely funny. Paul is definitely disingenuous and largely ignores the actions taken by Republicans following Jim Crow which eventually led to a loss of support among Black communities.

Renzatic said:
You know, today I found out there actually is a fine line that you can cross to make the hardcore crazies turn against you.

...they still accuse you of being Antifa, of course, but you can only push fascism veiled with Americana so far, it seems.
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Did you make another "right people" post on facebook or something?
 
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