The Republican Agenda 2021 and Forward

lizkat said:
It will be interesting to see if Trump's ongoing antics and reaction to the documents search at Mar a Lago might accelerate the doubts that some evangelicals have started to have about voting for Trump one more time.

Anyway Mike Pence --unmistakably an evangelical Christian-- has hinted publicly a few times that he wouldn't be averse to considering a request to testify before the 1/6 committee, meaning he can visualize some daylight opening up between hard-core Trump fans of the 1/6 Capitol incursion, and regular Republican conservatives. Also interesting that Pence will apparently release a memoir just AFTER the midterm elections.

www.politico.com

Pence: ‘I would consider’ testifying to Jan. 6 committee

“The American people have a right to know what happened,” Pence said. “And in the months and years ahead, I’ll be telling my story even more frequently.”
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After the midterms, that's when things will get even more interesting for the hapless Trump, since by then we'll know how voters actually feel about some pro-Trump primary winners in a general congressional election.

All the Republican politicians can then quit tippy-toeing around both Trump and their colleagues' re-election bids. In short order they'll get down to openly clawing their way onto the scoreboards for the 2024 presidential primaries. What they focus on to get there may have a lot to do with results of the midterm contests as well as whatever the DoJ may reveal of their investigations as time goes on.

Mike Pence is a scary guy, don't get me wrong. Not an impulsive scary guy like Donald Trump, and not by nature one for lighting up the night with incendiary posts to social media. What he is, though, is an example of someone capable of more calmly advancing goals of a bunch of authoritarians in the GOP, especially if the Rs have made headway in Congressional elections of 2022. His social views are pretty extreme and pretty regressive. The red state legislatures have certainly helped make a credible pathway for a guy like Pence to campaign and possibly to win "somehow" in 2024.

Meanwhile the Dems must begin wrestling in earnest with their own 2024 issues, on whether President Biden will run again and if not, how to step aside early on without weakening his leadership meanwhile and.... what oh what to do about Vice President Harris? Somewhere in there you can bet the DNC has still not ousted all the Clintonistas.

I found the (doubtless tongue in cheek) results of a recent poll of conservative students about Dem prospects for 2024 rather disheartening. In reality that would reflect a combination of paucity of vision and reliance on "star power"... and leaving out some worthy and attractive options in the Democrats' bench, including some strong candidates who ran in the 2020 primaries. But it's early days yet... lol for a few more months and hopefully the real polls don't run like that!

www.newsweek.com

Newsom Hardest Democrat to Beat in 2024 Presidential Race: TPUSA Straw Poll

The California governor would be a far more formidable candidate than Biden, according to attendees of this weekend's conservative Turning Point conference.
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I don’t have faith in Biden to win a second term, find someone young and inspirational.
 
Just wow...

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Ok, where is the GOP outrage over this shitstain this morning? Imagine this was 2004 and you had a Muslim candidate saying under his plan, any government official or officer of the law would be able to be shot onsight. You think they'd let that sit untouched, even if the candidate was a virtual unknown?
Where is the swift condemnation from the entire GOP over this assclown?
 
GermanSuplex said:
Ok, where is the GOP outrage over this shitstain this morning? Imagine this was 2004 and you had a Muslim candidate saying under his plan, any government official or officer of the law would be able to be shot onsight. You think they'd let that sit untouched, even if the candidate was a virtual unknown?
Where is the swift condemnation from the entire GOP over this assclown?
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Their silence is deafening, they won't "like" it but won't denounce either, I mean not even over the calls to murder those in law enforcement. I would love to see where all the blue lives "matter" people are too, they don't seem to give a shit that they themselves are now the targets of radical domestic terrorists. The irony here is palpable.
 
GermanSuplex said:
Ok, where is the GOP outrage over this shitstain this morning? Imagine this was 2004 and you had a Muslim candidate saying under his plan, any government official or officer of the law would be able to be shot onsight. You think they'd let that sit untouched, even if the candidate was a virtual unknown?
Where is the swift condemnation from the entire GOP over this assclown?
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Well surely there is a difference between the 2016 presidential candidate Trump saying "if" he had shot someone on Fifth Avenue, he wouldn't have lost a single vote... and this candidate for state legislature in Florida now actually promising he'd give blanket permission for his constituents to assassinate federal law enforcement officials.

The candidate in Florida is responsible for what he said. Hope there are legal consequences, not just political ones.

Trump's 2016 campaign opened doors for the rhetoric of political violence and his party has only sometimes made a concerted effort to disavow it. We've been parsing such language in the USA ever since then, trying anew to plumb grey areas and find the limits of protected speech, and meanwhile paying the price in suffering vile threats and actual incidents of violence against public officials and candidates.

The Feds can't be too pleased. Levels of threats against them are already high. Not clear how the Florida GOP might decide to respond to stuff like this. This is pretty extreme even for Florida.


EDIT: welp, Twitter has permanently suspended the guy...

floridapolitics.com

Twitter ‘permanently suspends’ HD 20 candidate after he advocates shooting federal agents

HD 20s Luis Miguel is still on Instagram though.
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lizkat said:
Well surely there is a difference between the 2016 presidential candidate Trump saying "if" he had shot someone on Fifth Avenue, he wouldn't have lost a single vote... and this candidate for state legislature in Florida now actually promising he'd give blanket permission for his constituents to assassinate federal law enforcement officials.

The candidate in Florida is responsible for what he said. Hope there are legal consequences, not just political ones.

Trump's 2016 campaign opened doors for the rhetoric of political violence and his party has only sometimes made a concerted effort to disavow it. We've been parsing such language in the USA ever since then, trying anew to plumb grey areas and find the limits of protected speech, and meanwhile paying the price in suffering vile threats and actual incidents of violence against public officials and candidates.

The Feds can't be too pleased. Levels of threats against them are already high. Not clear how the Florida GOP might decide to respond to stuff like this. This is pretty extreme even for Florida.


EDIT: welp, Twitter has permanently suspended the guy...

floridapolitics.com

Twitter ‘permanently suspends’ HD 20 candidate after he advocates shooting federal agents

HD 20s Luis Miguel is still on Instagram though.
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His suspension from Twitter will be considerably less consequential than the one January 6 insurrectionists were planning for Mike Pence.

Still, it’d be interesting to see what happens should this guy encounter a federal agent at, say, an airport security checkpoint. “Sir, please bend over. Agent Biff here is going to check for contraband.”
 
I wonder if these GOP officials will feel the same about FBI personnel when they are the targets of their own voter base’s violence. Something tells me they’ll be quick to make an exception for when and whom they put their faith in.
 
Some magazine made note of this graphic
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which was used in some campaign-related message.

When you notice the strange hyphen-like marks between the legs, a simple reversal (change the legs to negative/background space), the intent becomes obvious. And it absolutely has to be intentional.
 
Eric said:
Just wow...

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UN-FUCKING BELIEVABLE, but thinking about it, a predictable a play right out of Trump’s Ops Manual, when the Fascists on the Right seek to undermine existing authority to bring in their owned brand of oppression.
 
GermanSuplex said:
Ok, where is the GOP outrage over this shitstain this morning? Imagine this was 2004 and you had a Muslim candidate saying under his plan, any government official or officer of the law would be able to be shot onsight. You think they'd let that sit untouched, even if the candidate was a virtual unknown?
Where is the swift condemnation from the entire GOP over this assclown?
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It’s head games directed at STUPID. Unless something miraculous happens at the polls, where the Southern States are busy undermining our elections, I fear for our collective peaceful future.
 
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