Windows 11

[JamesMike]

One thing about Windows 11 which is not discussed much is your PC needs TPM installed, Trusted Platform Module, to install Windows 11. Newer PC have it, people with older PCs will need to check if they have it.

 

[User 189]

One thing about Windows 11 which is not discussed much is your PC needs TPM installed, Trusted Platform Module, to install Windows 11. Newer PC have it, people with older PCs will need to check if they have it.

Along with an 8th generation Intel CPU or the AMD equivalent.

 

[Renzatic]

Yeah, the stricter requirements do suck, but they're all easily bypassed.

How To Fix TPM 2.0 Error When Installing Windows 11?

Get rid of the TPM 2.0 error and enjoy Windows 11!

fossbytes.com

 

[User 189]

Yeah, the stricter requirements do suck, but they're all easily bypassed.

How To Fix TPM 2.0 Error When Installing Windows 11?

Get rid of the TPM 2.0 error and enjoy Windows 11!

fossbytes.com

Most people can't be bothered to do that, especially the average consumer.

4GB of RAM and Secure Boot is another requirement, but that's more forgivable. There's no 32-bit version of Windows 11.

 

[Renzatic]

Most people can't be bothered to do that, especially the average consumer.

4GB of RAM and Secure Boot is another requirement, but that's more forgivable. There's no 32-bit version of Windows 11.

It annoys me, because I don't have TPM at all. I combed through my bios, and despite the fact that my (listed as unsupported by Win11) CPU supposedly has PTT onboard, I couldn't find anything security related.

Given that I'm in the Insider Dev channel, I can still goof around with the beta builds, but I'll never be able to officially install it on this PC.

Windows Central ran a poll asking whether people's computers supported Win11 or not. Only 23% have answered yes.

Poll: Does your hardware qualify for Windows 11?

Let us know by voting!

www.windowscentral.com

 

[User 189]

It annoys me, because I don't have TPM at all. I combed through my bios, and despite the fact that my (listed as unsupported by Win11) CPU supposedly has PTT onboard, I couldn't find anything security related.

Given that I'm in the Insider Dev channel, I can still goof around with the beta builds, but I'll never be able to officially install it on this PC.

Windows Central ran a poll asking whether people's computers supported Win11 or not. Only 23% have answered yes.

Poll: Does your hardware qualify for Windows 11?

Let us know by voting!

www.windowscentral.com

 

[Renzatic]

Someone made a program called WhyNotWin11 that tells you exactly why you won't be able to upgrade. Here's my results...

GitHub - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11: Detection Script to help identify why your PC is not Windows 11 Release Ready. Now Supporting Update Checks!

Detection Script to help identify why your PC is not Windows 11 Release Ready. Now Supporting Update Checks! - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

github.com

 

[Runs For Fun]

Yeah that TPM 2.0 requirement is going to be a big stumbling point for a lot of people.

 

[Renzatic]

Yeah that TPM 2.0 requirement is going to be a big stumbling point for a lot of people.

The real requirement is TPM 1.2, with 2.0 being preferred. Problem is, I don't even have that.

 

[User 189]

Someone made a program called WhyNotWin11 that tells you exactly why you won't be able to upgrade. Here's my results...

View attachment 6313

GitHub - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11: Detection Script to help identify why your PC is not Windows 11 Release Ready. Now Supporting Update Checks!

Detection Script to help identify why your PC is not Windows 11 Release Ready. Now Supporting Update Checks! - rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11

github.com

Can you active TPM through the BIOS?

The real requirement is TPM 1.2, with 2.0 being preferred. Problem is, I don't even have that.

No, TPM 2.0 is the real requirement.

 

[Renzatic]

Can you active TPM through the BIOS?

No, TPM 2.0 is the real requirement.

MS talks about what they call hard floor, and soft floor requirements. The former being what you absolutely need for Win11 to install, and the latter being the preferred option for optimal performance. TPM 1.2 is a hard floor limit. If you don't have it, you can't use Windows 11. TPM 2.0 is a soft floor limit. You'll get a warning if you don't have it, but you can ignore it, and move on with the install.

Either way, I'm thinking about moving back to Linux for the meanwhile. The only reason why I came back to Windows was because of the Affinity programs, but...eh, I can get by without them. Begrudingly.

 

[User 189]

MS talks about what they call hard floor, and soft floor requirements. The former being what you absolutely need for Win11 to install, and the latter being the preferred option for optimal performance. TPM 1.2 is a hard floor limit. If you don't have it, you can't use Windows 11. TPM 2.0 is a soft floor limit. You'll get a warning if you don't have it, but you can ignore it, and move on with the install.

Either way, I'm thinking about moving back to Linux for the meanwhile. The only reason why I came back to Windows was because of the Affinity programs, but...eh, I can get by without them. Begrudingly.

No, TPM 2.0 is the hard floor limit from what I've heard.

 

[Renzatic]

No, TPM 2.0 is the hard floor limit from what I've heard.

It looks like they've changed their minds, and got rid of all the soft floor requirements altogether. Now TPM 2.0 is required.

Who knows what the hell is going on.

Microsoft does away with 'soft floor', updates minimum Windows 11 specs with TPM 2.0 requirement

We reported yesterday that Microsoft’s documentation made it clear that it was possible (but not recommended) for PC users to upgrade to Windows 11 even if their device only has a TPM 1.2 chip. Microsoft has spent some time today explaining the importance of TPM 2.0 for the security features...

mspoweruser.com

 

[User 189]

It looks like they've changed their minds, and got rid of all the soft floor requirements altogether. Now TPM 2.0 is required.

Who knows what the hell is going on.

Microsoft does away with 'soft floor', updates minimum Windows 11 specs with TPM 2.0 requirement

We reported yesterday that Microsoft’s documentation made it clear that it was possible (but not recommended) for PC users to upgrade to Windows 11 even if their device only has a TPM 1.2 chip. Microsoft has spent some time today explaining the importance of TPM 2.0 for the security features...

mspoweruser.com

I don't even know who to trust at this point, not even Microsoft. The communication between Microsoft and the user is so hilariously poor.

At least we can wait for the first preview build of Windows 11 to be released today.

PSA: Scalpers are hoarding TPM2.0 modules (of course they are), don't pay $100 for one

Scalpers have found the next goldmine to replicate the success with graphics cards. Thanks to Microsoft's new OS requirements for Windows 11, they're now hoarding trusted platform ...

www.windowscentral.com

 

[Renzatic]

I don't even know who to trust at this point, not even Microsoft. The communication between Microsoft and the user is so hilariously poor.

At least we can wait for the first preview build of Windows 11 to be released today.

Not me. I decided to say screw it, and installed Fedora. I'll get Windows 11 when I get a new PC.

 

[Huntn]

Will Windows 11 persuade anybody to switch over from macOS?

Microsoft will unveil 'the next generation of Windows' on June 24

Microsoft's Windows event is now official, and it's happening this month.

www.windowscentral.com

Probably not, but we will have to wait and see!

NOPE. Does it still have the registry? I never have issues with the MacOS-Catalina (knock on wood). Semi-frequently I find myself cursing Windows. Note, I use Windows 10 daily in the course of game playing.

 

[Renzatic]

NOPE. Does it still have the registry? I never have issues with MacOS (knock on wood).

It likely will. Though I still have no idea why people scream about the registry so much. I rarely ever see it cause any problems.

 

[Huntn]

It likely will. Though I still have no idea why people scream about the registry so much. I rarely ever see it cause any problems.

This is a prejudice that goes back to Windows needing a registry to know where stuff is while the Mac as far as I know does not need one to find programs or for programs to function. Now maybe I’m mistaken about such things, but once upon a time if I am remembering correctly, if you moved a program in Windows by copy/paste you would break it, where this was not an issue on the Mac.

 

[Renzatic]

This is a prejudice that goes back to Windows needing a registry to know where stuff is while the Mac as far as I know does not need one to find programs or for programs to function. Now maybe I’m mistaken about such things, but once upon a time if I am remembering correctly, if you moved a program in Windows by copy/paste you would break it, where this was not an issue on the Mac.

If it's an installed app, yeah. Though why would you be moving your apps out of Program Files or %appdata%?

 

[User 189]

This is a prejudice that goes back to Windows needing a registry to know where stuff is while the Mac as far as I know does not need one to find programs or for programs to function. Now maybe I’m mistaken about such things, but once upon a time if I am remembering correctly, if you moved a program in Windows by copy/paste you would break it, where this was not an issue on the Mac.

macOS uses .plist files to know where stuff is.

It likely will. Though I still have no idea why people scream about the registry so much. I rarely ever see it cause any problems.

Yeah, antivirus protection does a good enough job of protecting the Registry from being attacked.

Windows will always have the Registry unless they nuke and pave the whole operating system.

Note, I use Windows 10 daily in the course of game playing.

Will you not be updating to Windows 11?