Jan 6 Committee Public Hearings

[lizkat]

I presume the only reason we're even discussing him here is because Herdfan watches Fox News a lot, because none (and I mean NONE) of the other networks will give it the time of day. The only place this has any legs is in the conspiratorial right wing fringes.

To find anything in mainstream press about " the Bidens and Ukraine" except for retrospective references, you have to go back at least three years. Prosecutors in Ukraine had just then spent two years looking into allegations of corruption at Burisma, and found no reason --none-- to charge the younger Biden or point fingers at the father either. And they said so, repeatedly, to multiple newspapers of record around the world.

Burisma, The Bidens And Ukraine’s Bid To Be Energy Independent

The Ukrainian natural gas Burisma is now front-page news. What is it and how has it ensnared the Bidens and enveloped the USA in controversy?

www.forbes.com

I'm actually surprised the Rs still even want to harp on "corruption" and "Ukraine" considering the subject matter of Trump's first impeachment.

But then look at us right here, we're in a thread about the 1/6 insurrection and having to hammer away at the facts about "the Bidens and Ukraine"... bottom line the Republicans right now will risk almost any kind of argumentative backlash if they can just distract attention from the ongoing debacle of their ever having underwritten the aspirations of Donald John Trump to overthrow his own sitting government to illegally extend his presidency.

 

[Renzatic]

I presume the only reason we're even discussing him here is because Herdfan watches Fox News a lot, because none (and I mean NONE) of the other networks will give it the time of day. The only place this has any legs is in the conspiratorial right wing fringes.

To be fair, there is a story there. It's just not anywhere near as scandalous as the Trump faithful so fervently wishes it it to be.

 

[mac_in_tosh]

To be fair, there is a story there. It's just not anywhere near as scandalous as the Trump faithful so fervently wishes it it to be.

It's hard to put much faith into the seriousness of the Hunter alleged scandal based on the GOP's history e.g. the multiple Benghazi hearings. It's just a desperate attempt to distract and total hypocrisy as they to a large extent still support the orange traitor, even going to the extent of bashing the FBI for retrieving stolen highly classified documents from Crime-A-Lago after they had praised the FBI for investigating Hillary's emails. And that sleeze Ted Cruz accusing the FBI of being political. So just because there's a Democratic president any action against a Republican is political, even when that Republican has stolen and hid classified documents?

 

[Citysnaps]

In case anyone else is interested:

https://capehartoct18.splashthat.com/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=retention&utm_campaign=wp_pw_ret_WPLive_101622&wpisrc=pw_ret_WPLive_101622

 

[Cmaier]

Trump stole more money here than Hunter Biden got.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1582043371178455042/

 

[fooferdoggie]

Trump stole more money here than Hunter Biden got.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1582043371178455042/

like we could expect anything else.

 

[rdrr]

like we could expect anything else.

But we cannot expect any consequences for Trump and his family. Instead there will be the whataboutism from the Right, "What about Hunter Biden?"

 

[Yoused]

whataboutism from the Right, "What about Hunter Biden?"

How many damn times do we have to say it?

Projection.​

 

[Herdfan]

Trump stole more money here than Hunter Biden got.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1582043371178455042/

Probably not a comparison you want to make:

Joe Biden Also Profited off the Secret Service. It Was Also Wrong

If you browse the database of federal spending, available at USAspending.gov, you’ll find lots of Lockheed Martins, lots of Amazons, and thousands of small businesses among the federal vendors. You’ll also find two entries for Joseph R. Biden, Jr., the former vice president and former Democratic...

www.aei.org

But we cannot expect any consequences for Trump and his family. Instead there will be the whataboutism from the Right, "What about Hunter Biden?"

Since you asked:

Secret Service renting mansion for over $30,000 to protect Hunter Biden

Secret Service chose Malibu property to be as close as possible to president’s son, report says

www.theguardian.com

 

[Alli]

Probably not a comparison you want to make:

Joe Biden Also Profited off the Secret Service. It Was Also Wrong

If you browse the database of federal spending, available at USAspending.gov, you’ll find lots of Lockheed Martins, lots of Amazons, and thousands of small businesses among the federal vendors. You’ll also find two entries for Joseph R. Biden, Jr., the former vice president and former Democratic...

www.aei.org

Since you asked:

Secret Service renting mansion for over $30,000 to protect Hunter Biden

Secret Service chose Malibu property to be as close as possible to president’s son, report says

www.theguardian.com

I think the following sums it up nicely, even though it has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.

Reportedly, the Secret Service paid Trump in just three months what it had paid Biden in more than six years. In 2017, the Secret Service rented a three-bedroom cottage at Trump’s New Jersey golf course for three whole months, paying $17,000 a month. That is, taxpayers paid as much for one summer of the Trump cottage as they did for two years of the Biden cottage.

 

[lizkat]

The whole thing is problematic. You can't just pitch a tent in the backyard and tell the guys to pee in the corner of the fencing over there. I mean you like to think the guys protecting you are not carrying a grudge about how they are treated. On the other hand the protectees are likely to stay in pretty nice digs so in an era of exorbitant rent and real estate values, what to do?

 

[fooferdoggie]

Probably not a comparison you want to make:

Joe Biden Also Profited off the Secret Service. It Was Also Wrong

If you browse the database of federal spending, available at USAspending.gov, you’ll find lots of Lockheed Martins, lots of Amazons, and thousands of small businesses among the federal vendors. You’ll also find two entries for Joseph R. Biden, Jr., the former vice president and former Democratic...

www.aei.org

excpet thats what the secred service chose they did not chage them rent like trump did so the money did no go into their pockets like it did trump. remember the guy who served for free???

 

[Pumbaa]

Probably not a comparison you want to make:

Joe Biden Also Profited off the Secret Service. It Was Also Wrong

If you browse the database of federal spending, available at USAspending.gov, you’ll find lots of Lockheed Martins, lots of Amazons, and thousands of small businesses among the federal vendors. You’ll also find two entries for Joseph R. Biden, Jr., the former vice president and former Democratic...

www.aei.org

Did you post the wrong link?

 

[Yoused]

Did you post the wrong link?

America Enterprise Institute is a Tea Party sponsor.

 

[Pumbaa]

America Enterprise Institute is a Tea Party sponsor.

Just implying that the linked content didn’t even come close to living up to the hype preceding it…

 

[ronntaylor]

Probably not a comparison you want to make:

You should have been looking into the mirror when you posted the above. From your posted link:

...That is, taxpayers paid as much for one summer of the Trump cottage as they did for two years of the Biden cottage.

These numbers dwarf the Biden numbers, which makes them more ethically troubling. They are also more troubling because they are more unnecessary. Biden was getting protection at his home. Trump is getting protection at his very expensive clubs. His decision to stay in these places drives up the price to the taxpayer of Trump’s protection, and it ensures that rents are flowing to Trump.

And as I stated earlier, Mango stayed at his properties every damn opportunity possible. The cost for him and his family is more than several predecessors combined.

 

[Herdfan]

America Enterprise Institute is a Tea Party sponsor.

That same (almost exact) story is on many outlets.

 

[Yoused]

That same (almost exact) story is on many outlets.

"Story"? Do most "stories" you see have a little box or line at the top that says "Op-Ed", like that particular "story"?

 

[Pumbaa]

That same (almost exact) story is on many outlets.

Any of those living up to the “Probably not a comparison you want to make” hype?

 

[rdrr]

Since you asked:

Secret Service renting mansion for over $30,000 to protect Hunter Biden

Secret Service chose Malibu property to be as close as possible to president’s son, report says

www.theguardian.com

Do the Biden's profit off of the $30,000/month mansion?