The Republican Agenda 2021 and Forward

JayMysteri0

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There seriously has to be a discussion why THIS shit keeps getting revealed well after it's importance could have played a factor in discussions about these things.

Hot mic captured Gaetz assuring Stone of pardon, discussing Mueller redactions​

The Washington Post

Hot mic captured Gaetz assuring Stone of pardon, discussing Mueller redactions

As Roger Stone prepared to stand trial in 2019, complaining he was under pressure from federal prosecutors to incriminate Donald Trump, a close ally of the president repeatedly assured Stone that “the boss” would likely grant him clemency if he were convicted, a recording shows. At an event at a Trump property that October, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) predicted that Stone would be found guilty at his trial in Washington the following month but would not “do a day” in prison. Gaetz was apparently unaware they were being recorded by documentary filmmakers following Stone.
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So this is crazy and terrifying.



Literally trying to undermine democracy.
 

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Bannon: the MAGAtsphere is diverse and inclusive.


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Lara Loomer: No! Diversity is lethal
 

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So this is crazy and terrifying.



Literally trying to undermine democracy.
This tidbit was pretty nuts:

County officials ultimately relented after spending more than seven hours counting the 317 ballots by hand.

How slow do they count?
 

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When your head is so far up your ass, you don't realize you're telling on yourself that you are a petty & vindictive piece of hypocritical shit that would take it out unnecessarily on veterans.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1553777204617629696/

Eat a d- , to go along with your bullshit.

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For any Trump-siding Republican even to utter the word "mendacity" about someone from the other aisle is ludicrous. Cornyn frogets about the WaPo's careful catalog of more than 30k documented public lies from The Don just during his term in office.
 

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A disturbing look at what we maybe in for in the future. With some conservatives having decided the democracy they have enjoyed & thrived in, isn't working for them since they aren't always getting their way. So heady with the embrace they've made with authoritarianism they might shoot for just going with making an empire.

As former Republican senator Rick Santorum addressed Republican lawmakers gathered in San Diego at the American Legislative Exchange Council policy summit, he detailed a plan to fundamentally remake the United States.

It would become a conservative nation.

And the transformation, Santorum said, culminates with an unprecedented event: a first-of-its-kind convention to rewrite the Constitution.

"You take this grenade and you pull the pin, you've got a live piece of ammo in your hands," Santorum, a two-time GOP presidential candidate and former CNN commentator, explained in audio of his remarks obtained by the left-leaning watchdog group the Center for Media and Democracy and shared with Insider. "34 states — if every Republican legislator votes for this, we have a constitutional convention."

The December 2021 ALEC meeting represents a flashpoint in a movement spearheaded by powerful conservative interests, some of whom are tied to Trumpworld and share many of Trump's goals, to alter the nation's bedrock legal text since 1788. It's an effort that has largely taken place out of public view.

But interviews with a dozen people involved in the constitutional convention movement, along with documents and audio recordings reviewed by Insider, reveal a sprawling, well-funded — at least partly by cryptocurrency — and impassioned campaign taking root across multiple states.

Notably fueling them: success.
During an extraordinary few weeks in June, the Supreme Court's three new Trump appointees powered the reversal of Roe v. Wade. They fortified gun rights and bolstered religious freedoms. Future presidents now have less power to confront the climate crisis. Each win is the product of a steady, and in some cases, decades-long quest by conservatives to bend the arc of history rightward.

This isn't an exercise, either. State lawmakers are invited to huddle in Denver starting on Sunday to learn more about the inner workings of a possible constitutional convention at Academy of States 3.0, the third installment of a boot camp preparing state lawmakers "in anticipation of an imminent Article V Convention."

Rob Natelson, a constitutional scholar and senior fellow at the Independence Institute who closely studies Article V of the Constitution, predicted to Insider there's a 50% chance that the United States will witness a constitutional convention in the next five years. Whether it happens, he said, is highly dependent on Republicans' success winning state legislatures during the 2022 midterm elections.

But not everyone in the conservative constitutional convention movement believes such a gathering is so imminent. It will likely take years more work to reach their goal, if they ever do. At minimum, Republicans will need to flip several Democratic-controlled state legislatures and convince remaining GOP holdouts of the necessity for a convention.

But during the past several decades, they've made progress. Lately, a lot.

And now, they have a plan.

Conservatives are pushing a never-before-tested convention

Article V to the US Constitution provides two ways to amend the nation's organizing document — the most difficult, but most dramatic way to alter American society's very foundation.

The first is for a two-thirds majority of Congress to propose an amendment, with three-fourths of states ratifying it. This is how all 27 of the current amendments to the Constitution were added, but it's a path that today is largely blocked because of intractable partisan divisions. No American under 30 has experienced the nation amending the Constitution in his or her lifetime.

The second method — never before accomplished — involves two-thirds of US states to call a convention. The power to call for a convention belongs solely to state legislatures, who would pass and ratify amendments without a governor's signature, Congress' intervention, or any input from the president.

Some states have tried and tried — without result — to prompt a constitutional convention. They've together issued hundreds of pro-convention resolutions or calls over 200 years to reroute constitutional amendment powers away from Washington. What's new now is the ever-evolving power coupling of a corporation-backed ideological juggernaut led by ALEC, a nonprofit organization with close ties to large tobacco and drug companies, and a determined Republican Party increasingly dominating many of the nation's 50 statehouses.

If they were successful, a constitutional convention led by conservatives could trigger sweeping changes to the Constitution.

Their goals include gutting federal environmental standards, nixing nationwide education requirements, and creating an incredibly high threshold for Washington, DC, or a territory to earn statehood. Some would like to make it difficult, if not impossible, for someone — National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci, for example — to work for decades within the federal government.

Former President Donald Trump, close to announcing a campaign for a second term in office, would find much to love about the convention movement.

He's argued that Article II gave him sweeping presidential powers akin to Richard Nixon's famous declaration that "when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal." Trump also attempted to claim that he could unilaterally end birthright citizenship (he could not) and repeatedly argued the White House didn't have to comply with congressional subpoenas.
The planks of the Convention of States' movement — such as term limits for federal bureaucrats in addition to members of Congress — stand to attract acolytes of Trumpism savoring the means to MAGA-fy the Constitution, and therefore, the nation.

In fact, it already has. Constitutional convention boosters include many of Trump's current and former allies, including conservative legal scholar John Eastman, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, and Fox News personalities like Sean Hannity and Mark Levin.

Eastman, who recently had his phone seized by federal agents investigating Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results, attended a 2016 mock convention hosted by the Convention of States.

"It's the most extraordinary thing in my career that I've ever been a part of," Eastman said in a video produced by the convention simulation organizers. "The process actually works."
There's much more at the link

Before one dismisses any of this out of hand as too far out, remember the same was said about getting rid of 'Roe Vs Wade'. Conservatives kept throwing anything out that may stick to the so called wall, until the conditions were right for their attempts to stick.
 

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The Constitutional Convention idea is probably overhyped:
  • First you have to get 34 states to call for the convention
  • Then – and this is critical – Congress must recognize the call and put the convention together
  • which is to say that Congress must agree to cede its own power to the convention
  • finally, all you need is 13 Blue states to not ratify the amendment(s) for them to not end up in the Constitution

So, yeah, maybe a little bit scary, but there was a bloody hook hanging from the door handle kind of scary.
 

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The Constitutional Convention idea is probably overhyped:
  • First you have to get 34 states to call for the convention
  • Then – and this is critical – Congress must recognize the call and put the convention together
  • which is to say that Congress must agree to cede its own power to the convention
  • finally, all you need is 13 Blue states to not ratify the amendment(s) for them to not end up in the Constitution

So, yeah, maybe a little bit scary, but there was a bloody hook hanging from the door handle kind of scary.
As I said though, we've seen things that were scary & considered improbable, but conservatives still plowed on trying it.

As of late, their chances of succeeding have gone from improbable to possible with the right ( stacking legislatures, sympathetic courts ) conditions eventually possible.
 

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As I said though, we've seen things that were scary & considered improbable, but conservatives still plowed on trying it.

As of late, their chances of succeeding have gone from improbable to possible with the right ( stacking legislatures, sympathetic courts ) conditions eventually possible.
As the population of America becomes more concentrated in urban areas, the remaining residents of the less-populated states become more and more powerful. We could have a situation where 34 states might end up comprising less than half of the nation’s population.

If we’re going to have a constitutional convention, why not rewrite the thing to give power back to the people. As it is, corporations and States have more rights than people. The current Supreme Court seems to care only for States’ rights and corporations’ rights.
 

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Listened to an interview with a writer who has been covering the Christian conservative movement for years including going to their major gatherings and events. She said they frequently call liberals and Democrats satanic, have no interest in winning people over or being the majority, use the language of hate and genocide and see democracy as the enemy. They are perfectly content with their minority rule where they have rigged everything in their favor.

So there’s that.
 

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Listened to an interview with a writer who has been covering the Christian conservative movement for years including going to their major gatherings and events. She said they frequently call liberals and Democrats satanic, have no interest in winning people over or being the majority, use the language of hate and genocide and see democracy as the enemy. They are perfectly content with their minority rule where they have rigged everything in their favor.

So there’s that.
Praise Jeebus!
 

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:ROFLMAO:

Sounds about right.
no they are potential voters to keep his zombie ass in power.
 

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I see Trump has endorsed “Eric” in the Missouri senate race, but hasn’t said which one. There’s two in the race.

I guess he can say nothing until one wins, then claim “Yeah, that one!”

These aren’t primaries, these are freak shows. God help us. I’m not a religious man, but we need some sort of divine intervention. What a circus.
 

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I see Trump has endorsed “Eric” in the Missouri senate race, but hasn’t said which one. There’s two in the race.

I guess he can say nothing until one wins, then claim “Yeah, that one!”

These aren’t primaries, these are freak shows. God help us. I’m not a religious man, but we need some sort of divine intervention. What a circus.
Believe it or not, to add to the confusion, there was actually a third "Eric". They were polling so low, that everyone just forgot about them.

Former President Donald Trump injected some last-minute confusion ahead of Missouri's Senate primary Tuesday by endorsing "ERIC" in a statement Monday night.

Eric who? Former Gov. Eric Greitens? State Attorney General Eric Schmitt? Or maybe even little-known Eric McElroy?
 
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