The Trump Indictment Thread

Before today, I was thinking that trump would likely be pardoning himself for the two federal indictments right after he takes office in January. End of story.

Today, Smith moved to have the charges dropped without prejudice for both federal indictments, which was then granted by the judge. Since the two indictments do not exist anymore, is there anything left for trump to pardon himself?

If not, it seems Smith could then refile those charges right after trump leaves office in 2029 and then go to trial. If true, perhaps today's move by Smith was actually a good move, because that possibility might not exist if trump had the opportunity to pardon himself as soon as he's innaugurated in January.

Thoughts?

Damn... False alarm on the above.

I consulted with my attorney friend back east and he said "The pardon does not have to be — and commonly is not — connected to a specific indictment or charge." And citing Ford's pardon of Nixon, who at that time was not charged with any criminal offense.

 
If not, it seems Smith could then refile those charges right after trump leaves office in 2029 and then go to trial.

Thoughts?

Would Smith not have to be reappointed as Special Counsel? I guarantee Trump will fire and reappoint all US Attorneys.

And before anyone gets all bent out of shape that Trump will fire all US Attorneys, Biden did the same thing. Common practice.
 
There is a thing called the "statute of limitations" which could get in the way. Seems like it is a problematic law that could use some revision.
there’s a principal of law called “tolling,” that means you don’t count certain time periods in the statute of limitations. This would seem to be the kind of thing that would toll the statute of limitations, though we’re in uncharted territory.
 
I wonder if the time would “toll” while he is President?

Who cares? His criminality was laid bare for all to see, you either believe it or you don’t. Let’s not pretend a public parading of the evidence and a conviction would have made a difference in the minds of those who watched J6 play out as a “day of love” where his cult of rednecks were “hugging and kissing the police”.

Let’s see how much he, his mail order illegal immigrant bride and his dynasty of brain-damaged loin litter can grift off the taxpayer tit before he croaks or successfully rigs the next election for the next con artist he anoints.

I hope it’s a lot, personally. I voted against a car wreck, but since I’m getting one anyways, I want a big one. Lots of collateral damage and unforeseen complications are what I’m hoping for now. I didn’t buy a ticket to the show, but I’m being forced to watch. I hope your eggs and gas goes up too, preferably by a lot. 👍🏽

Damn... False alarm on the above.

I consulted with my attorney friend back east and he said "The pardon does not have to be — and commonly is not — connected to a specific indictment or charge." And citing Ford's pardon of Nixon, who at that time was not charged with any criminal offense.


I remember when Trump was on his way out of office, the general consensus was he could simply issue a vague pardon of himself and anyone else and it would pretty much cover anything.

Given he’s been given more freedom by our bought and paid for fake-conservative pawn Supreme Court, he has free reign. There will be no conviction of the mental midget now or in the future. Our focus should shift from the courts, whose primary concern seems to be making sure stupid white collar criminals aren’t inconvenienced, to public humiliation. The time for talking sense is over, we have a geriatric reality show airhead who just mounted the greatest political comeback in American history, this time with the world’s richest man in his pocket. Common sense is dead, time to huff some paint and get on their level to figure out how to turn this ship around.
 
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Who cares? His criminality was laid bare for all to see, you either believe it or you don’t. Let’s not pretend a public parading of the evidence and a conviction would have made a difference in the minds of those who watched J6 play out as a “day of love” where his cult of rednecks were “hugging and kissing the police”.

Let’s see how much he, his mail order illegal immigrant bride and his dynasty of brain-damaged loin litter can grift off the taxpayer tit before he croaks or successfully rigs the next election for the next con artist he anoints.

I hope it’s a lot, personally. I voted against a car wreck, but since I’m getting one anyways, I want a big one. Lots of collateral damage and unforeseen complications are what I’m hoping for now. I didn’t buy a ticket to the show, but I’m being forced to watch. I hope your eggs and gas goes up too, preferably by a lot. 👍🏽



I remember when Trump was on his way out of office, the general consensus was he could simply issue a vague pardon of himself and anyone else and it would pretty much cover anything.

Given he’s been given more freedom by our bought and paid for fake-conservative pawn Supreme Court, he has free reign. There will be no conviction of the mental midget now or in the future. Our focus should shift from the courts, whose primary concern seems to be making sure stupid white collar criminals aren’t inconvenienced, to public humiliation. The time for talking sense is over, we have a geriatric reality show airhead who just mounted the greatest political comeback in American history, this time with the world’s richest man in his pocket. Common sense is dead, time to huff some paint and get on their level to figure out how to turn this ship around.

Though I have zero data to support this ever occurring... I'm *hoping* over the next four years there'll be a "grow a spine" movement within the Republican Party in both the House and Senate, where members wake up and take back their party, kicking trumpism to the gutter.

It's nice to dream.
 
Though I have zero data to support this ever occurring... I'm *hoping* over the next four years there'll be a "grow a spine" movement within the Republican Party in both the House and Senate, where members wake up and take back their party, kicking trumpism to the gutter.

It's nice to dream.

After 11 years, when Trump’s candidacy should have ended about fifteen minutes after it was announced in 2015, I am not hopeful.

My focus has now shifted to hoping republicans feel maximum pain for their series of poor choices revolving around this low-IQ criminal grifter. I hope Trump exacts revenge on some of them, and soils their careers and legacies (looking at you Mitch).
 
Seems like a lot are blaming Garland, it's fair criticism IMO. Democrats are too focused on what's right and don't have the balls to be as shamelessly devoid of a conscious as Republicans, it's always been their downfall.

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Who would have thought blocking him from being on the Supreme Court would pay further dividends to Republicans as the top spot in the DOJ. I hope Trump gives him some inappropriate medal for this.
 
Who would have thought blocking him from being on the Supreme Court would pay further dividends to Republicans as the top spot in the DOJ. I hope Trump gives him some inappropriate medal for this.
It's safe to say Trump is 100% bullet proof in every way, the man can do no wrong, apparently.
 
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