Today’s Shooting (an ongoing topic)

What I can't wrap my head around is how many toddlers are out there playing with guns and not hurting or killing someone? We don't hear the stories about "toddler gets gun and shoots window" or "toddler plays with gun, but doesn't accidentally discharge it". Why are so many toddlers packing heat when the number should be 0?
 
MEJHarrison said:
What I can't wrap my head around is how many toddlers are out there playing with guns and not hurting or killing someone? We don't hear the stories about "toddler gets gun and shoots window" or "toddler plays with gun, but doesn't accidentally discharge it". Why are so many toddlers packing heat when the number should be 0?
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Because in order to protect our families toddlers are going to occasionally have to kill somebody. That’s the tradeoff.

Also interesting you never really hear “cartel leader accidently killed by 4-year-old son.” I guarantee cartel leaders aren’t responsible gun owners.
 
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GermanSuplex said:
School shooting at a Christian school in Madison, WI. Five dead, including the suspect, a juvenile. Five others injured.

*NBC News updated the death count to four, still including the shooter among the deceased.

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Teen student identified as suspect in Abundant Life Christian School shooting — NBC News

Police said a teacher and a teenage student were killed in the shooting at the private K-12 school.
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well at least they could pray while it was happening. I am sure there are lots of thoughts and prayers happening.
 
Happy New Year

10-y/o Yaneliz Munguia was celebrating the holiday with her parents, lighting fireworks outside, in the Miami area, when her parents saw her collapse. Checking her out, they found that she had been shot in the head. She did not make it out of the hospital, once they got her there.

Where the round came from will almost certainly never be known. Bullets shot into the air can travel quite some distance.
 
Make it make sense.

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Yoused said:
Where the round came from will almost certainly never be known. Bullets shot into the air can travel quite some distance.
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I believe Mythbusters once showed that a bullet is only "safe" if fired straight up in the air, because it will lose energy and then come straight down due to gravity.
When fired at an angle, a bullet can still be deadly even hundreds of meters away, especially when it hits the head.

My sister also once told about a story where someone collapsed on the same street she visited a short while before, and the reason for the collapse also was a stray bullet to the head.

The absurd thing is that the NRA was founded to educate people in the responsible use of the guns they already had.
But nowadays the NRA only cares about new gun sales and "responsible" doesn't seem to be a word in the manual of arms.
 
KingOfPain said:
I believe Mythbusters once showed that a bullet is only "safe" if fired straight up in the air, because it will lose energy and then come straight down due to gravity.
When fired at an angle, a bullet can still be deadly even hundreds of meters away, especially when it hits the head.
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Yes. When fired straight up it loses it’s ballistic properties at the apex and then simply falls back to the ground subject to its terminal velocity of between 200-300 fps.

But a round fired at an angle that maintains its ballistic properties, ie spin, can hit the ground at several times the TV.

And the distance it can be deadly is measured in miles.

Army’s danger zone distances.

5.56 (AR 15) - 3,825y or 2.17 miles
7.62 (AK 47) - 5,800y or 3.29 miles
.300 WinMag - 8,310y or 4.72 miles
 
Yoused said:
Still, I think a 2 ounce piece of dense metal hitting your bare head at over 150mph would at the very least leave mark, probably worse.
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Absolutely it would. And it may very well kill you if it hit at the right place.

But your weights are off. A 5.56 weighs in at around 10-12g (.4oz) and a 7.62 weighs in around 24g or .84oz.

But no way would I want to experience another chunk of metal in me from getting shot.
 
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