Yes. Especially when we abandoned unions, we abandoned a part of what kept white male Americans' identity tied to liberal policies - of course the Republicans destroyed the Unions so there's a chicken and the egg. That, over the long run, destroyed the Democrat's ability to win white America. The Republicans knew what they were doing and the Democrats failed to stop them ... and then eventually even helped them to do it. And now, one of the major unions that is left didn't even endorse Harris and its leader spoke at the RNC.
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As a candidate, Trump had repeatedly vowed to carry out the "largest deportation effort in American history." Asked about the cost of his plan, he said, "It’s not a question of a price tag. It’s not — really, we have no choice. When people have killed and murdered, when drug lords have destroyed countries and now they’re going to go back to those countries because they’re not staying here. There is no price tag."
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Emphasis on the bolded part. To be clear, I’m not against a true partnership to find unproductive or criminal illegal migrants. Democrats may want to be more vocal. Yeah, they’ll be seen as flip-floppers, maybe rightfully so, but if the focus is on “no to criminals, yes to productive members of society” and a deportation plan that is carried out that way, nobody would care. There would be a fraction of bleeding hearts and a faction of racists who demand nothing or the rounding up of anyone brown, but those are the fringes. The majority, like abortion, want immigration to be safe and legal. I want dreamers and families and taxpayers given a plan to stay here, a system that works. I don’t want ICE or even worse, police, raiding homes and rounding people up.
I’m not too concerned about his rhetoric on deportations - conservatives like their cheap labor and hard workers. Then again, with Trump, what you said yesterday means nothing today.
This is an article from 2018…
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said the overall plan from Trump is “credible” but that he would not support such significant cuts to the legal immigration side.
“The idea of cutting legal immigration in half and skewing the green cards to one area of the economy, I think, is bad for the economy,” Graham said, referring to the administration’s broad pitch to shift to a merit-based immigration system. “Not a whole lot of support for that. I want more legal immigration, not less.”
Trump says there's 'no price tag' for his mass deportation plan — NBC News
In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Trump talked about his campaign promise to carry out the largest mass deportation of immigrants in U.S. history.
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Emphasis on the bolded part. To be clear, I’m not against a true partnership to find unproductive or criminal illegal migrants. Democrats may want to be more vocal. Yeah, they’ll be seen as flip-floppers, maybe rightfully so, but if the focus is on “no to criminals, yes to productive members of society” and a deportation plan that is carried out that way, nobody would care. There would be a fraction of bleeding hearts and a faction of racists who demand nothing or the rounding up of anyone brown, but those are the fringes. The majority, like abortion, want immigration to be safe and legal. I want dreamers and families and taxpayers given a plan to stay here, a system that works. I don’t want ICE or even worse, police, raiding homes and rounding people up.
I’m not too concerned about his rhetoric on deportations - conservatives like their cheap labor and hard workers. Then again, with Trump, what you said yesterday means nothing today.
This is an article from 2018…
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said the overall plan from Trump is “credible” but that he would not support such significant cuts to the legal immigration side.
“The idea of cutting legal immigration in half and skewing the green cards to one area of the economy, I think, is bad for the economy,” Graham said, referring to the administration’s broad pitch to shift to a merit-based immigration system. “Not a whole lot of support for that. I want more legal immigration, not less.”
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so will there be a swearing-in? it's pointless now since he will not be following the Constitution.
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Seems redundant to make a messiah swear on a Bible.
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LMAO this reply wins the internet today.
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As a candidate, Trump had repeatedly vowed to carry out the "largest deportation effort in American history." Asked about the cost of his plan, he said, "It’s not a question of a price tag. It’s not — really, we have no choice. When people have killed and murdered, when drug lords have destroyed countries and now they’re going to go back to those countries because they’re not staying here. There is no price tag."
Trump says there's 'no price tag' for his mass deportation plan — NBC News
In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Trump talked about his campaign promise to carry out the largest mass deportation of immigrants in U.S. history.
Emphasis on the bolded part. To be clear, I’m not against a true partnership to find unproductive or criminal illegal migrants. Democrats may want to be more vocal. Yeah, they’ll be seen as flip-floppers, maybe rightfully so, but if the focus is on “no to criminals, yes to productive members of society” and a deportation plan that is carried out that way, nobody would care. There would be a fraction of bleeding hearts and a faction of racists who demand nothing or the rounding up of anyone brown, but those are the fringes. The majority, like abortion, want immigration to be safe and legal. I want dreamers and families and taxpayers given a plan to stay here, a system that works. I don’t want ICE or even worse, police, raiding homes and rounding people up.
I’m not too concerned about his rhetoric on deportations - conservatives like their cheap labor and hard workers. Then again, with Trump, what you said yesterday means nothing today.
This is an article from 2018…
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said the overall plan from Trump is “credible” but that he would not support such significant cuts to the legal immigration side.
“The idea of cutting legal immigration in half and skewing the green cards to one area of the economy, I think, is bad for the economy,” Graham said, referring to the administration’s broad pitch to shift to a merit-based immigration system. “Not a whole lot of support for that. I want more legal immigration, not less.”
But the safety and cost of living can’t improve for Americans until every last illegal immigrant has been deported. Wonder why things haven’t improved or in some cases gotten worse? We haven’t caught them all yet! This takes time, possibly even another term.
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When people have killed and murdered, when drug lords have destroyed countries and now they’re going to go back to those countries because they’re not staying here.
If you caught an illegal migrant murderer, you could probably get them to pay their own airfare back home if that’s the plan. I know that’s not what Trump meant, but it is what he said.
Or is he just talking about sending “people” back to where they came because their countries are out of control? If someone is an illegal immigrant and that’s your focus, why does it matter where they come from?
BTW, that is how he talks all the time, and that was one of his more eloquent statements.
If you caught an illegal migrant murderer, you could probably get them to pay their own airfare back home if that’s the plan. I know that’s not what Trump meant, but it is what he said.
Or is he just talking about sending “people” back to where they came because their countries are out of control? If someone is an illegal immigrant and that’s your focus, why does it matter where they come from?BTW, that is how he talks all the time, and that was one of his more eloquent statements.
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if we need reminders how people like trump
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Well, that’s one way to get an affirmative answer if you ask someone if you have stupid written across your forehead.
Also, I found this a bit ironic, given his rhetoric on Chicago…
The intrigue: While most Trump-leaning precincts this year had a history of conservative voting, the 19th precinct of the 24th ward, which included 1,479 votes from inmates at the Cook County Jail, turned red this year.
Also, I found this a bit ironic, given his rhetoric on Chicago…
The intrigue: While most Trump-leaning precincts this year had a history of conservative voting, the 19th precinct of the 24th ward, which included 1,479 votes from inmates at the Cook County Jail, turned red this year.
- It was the first time Americans had the chance to vote for a convicted felon in the presidential race, something Trump predicted would help him among Black voters.
Unless it's a Trump bible.
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Found our next candidate! Just kidding. But he’s right though.
First cabinet pick. You will have to judge her by the company she keeps and your opinion of said company.
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That summary though... He won, but if that was “disciplined”, I’d hate to think what undisciplined looks like.
First cabinet pick. You will have to judge her by the company she keeps and your opinion of said company.
President-elect Trump names Susie Wiles as chief of staff - NewsBreak
WASHINGTON (AP) — President-elect Donald Trump has named Susie Wiles, the manager of his victorious campaign, as his White House chief of staff. Wiles is widely credited within and outside Trump’s inner circle for running what was, by far, his most disciplined and well-executed campaign. She...
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That summary though... He won, but if that was “disciplined”, I’d hate to think what undisciplined looks like.
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Memo to all Trump voters -
Now that you have elected a convicted felon, a sociopath who enjoyed watching the violence at the Capitol, someone who stole classified documents and ignored a subpoena to return them, a reality t.v. star, a failed businessman, someone who cheated on taxes, insurance and his three wives, an assaulter of women, a moron who can't articulate policy detail, someone who adores autocrats and has a suspicious relationship with Putin, someone who is in cognitive decline and who tanked the economy during his term in office...my only consolation is that you will also have to suffer the consequences.
Now that you have elected a convicted felon, a sociopath who enjoyed watching the violence at the Capitol, someone who stole classified documents and ignored a subpoena to return them, a reality t.v. star, a failed businessman, someone who cheated on taxes, insurance and his three wives, an assaulter of women, a moron who can't articulate policy detail, someone who adores autocrats and has a suspicious relationship with Putin, someone who is in cognitive decline and who tanked the economy during his term in office...my only consolation is that you will also have to suffer the consequences.
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and they will still praise him as they suffer.
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I'm not sure if they see him as a Messiah or as the Antichrist, but either is fine with the Evangelicals, since they are just waiting for the Rapture.
Maybe they are lucky and actually get it, but I somehow doubt that they'll go to Heaven.
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This is beginning to remind me of the Brexit referendum.
A lot of people didn't vote, because they thought it wouldn't matter or the worst simply wouldn't happen.
Afterwards, the people who did vote for Brexit were surprised that:
- They suddenly had to pay tariffs, because they weren't in the EU anymore.
- Goods could be delayed due to customs.
- The money paid to the EU was highly exagerated and was not suddenly and completely used for health care.
- They weren't allowed to fish in Irish waters anymore.
- etc
- What tariffs are payed by us? But Trump said something different! Tump is a bloody idiot and has no idea how tariffs work and you are an idiot for believing someone who lies at least as easily as he breathes instead of checking it for yourself.
- He wouldn't mess with health care, would he? He tried to kill ACA the last time he was president (probably primarily because he wanted to eliminate everything that Obama did), but he didn't manage, because "no one knew how hard it is". What makes you think that he won't try again?
- He wouldn't mess with education, would he? Did everyone forget about Betsy DeVos?
BTW, Seth Meyers showed lost of clips during his Closer Look segment, where right-wing commentators were talking about "liberal tears".
Not only are Republicans sore losers, they are also bad winners, because I'm pretty sure, had Kamala Harris won, liberal commentators would not comment about "Republican tears", but rather utter a sigh of relief and talk about the positive road ahead.
