General worried about my BP with all my stupid intolerances.

[shadow puppet]

the BP does not make me feel anything. they don't call it the silent killer for nothing. Man my bp was high when I checked it after my 3 vaccinations. still a bit high. but I still don't feel as bad as when I got the shingles vaccine especially the second time that was so bad.

Yes, I get that. I was suggesting if you did try it and felt dizzy, you could always speak to your doctor about trying a different BP med.

 

[fooferdoggie]

Yes, I get that. I was suggesting if you did try it and felt dizzy, you could always speak to your doctor about trying a different BP med.

the pharmacist said thats common with BP meds till your body gets used to them. mean feel like crap today those vaccinations are kicking my butt.

 

[shadow puppet]

the pharmacist said thats common with BP meds till your body gets used to them. mean feel like crap today those vaccinations are kicking my butt.

It may be but I was letting you know I never experienced dizziness and I weigh very little. I was trying to share that you needn't be scared of trying a BP med when under a doctor's care. There are many BP options and working with your doctor will help find the right med, right titer for you.

I'll exit the convo now since nothing I'm sharing is helping you. Best of luck.

 

[fooferdoggie]

It may be but I was letting you know I never experienced dizziness and I weigh very little. I was trying to share that you needn't be scared of trying a BP med when under a doctor's care. There are many BP options and working with your doctor will help find the right med, right titer for you.

I'll exit the convo now since nothing I'm sharing is helping you. Best of luck.

ok I got i. I am not scared its that carbs made me loopy and I hate that feeling. thats the one thing alone that will keep me from eating them. so thats why I hate the idea. this is a really small dose to start with. I will take them at night so hopefully the side effects are gone by morning. if I don't get enough sleep for several days I can get dizzy when I get up. They had my try a light anti depressant as it could help with esophagus problems I amor fell of a short ladder cause it made me dizzy. I am a lot more alert for such things if my brain is working. sometimes I have both because of carbs and I am so out of it I didn't to know it. its really unsafe for me to eat carbs anymore,

 

[fooferdoggie]

man these vaccines are beating me up. feel like hell today worse then the last two days. I did not even leave the house today. I thought the second shingles vaccine was bad.

 

[AG_PhamD]

well doc wants me on a bp med. figured that as my bp has been up for 3 years.so on a low dose of losartan and since it can help kidneys thats good with m,y all protein diet. hope it works with my body. so far I never had luck with meds working. pain meds and tummy meds have never really worked for me. I had two vaccinations I needed but I guess I needed three. so one in one arm two in the other. made me so tried. but my wife told me wait on the bp meds as they can make you dizzy and I use dont need that today.

Vaccines obviously illicit an immune response in order to have the antibodies necessary to fight a future infection. Immune response is extremely energy intensive and your body will allocate more energy resources to fighting an infection (or perceived infection, in the case of vaccines) and less energy to other metabolic actives. It’s very normal to have such effects after a vaccination.

Given your dietary restrictions of carbs/sugar, your body probably has less quickly accessible energy in general to use across all metabolic processes, which I imagine would make you feel pretty burnt out.

Provided your provider is okay with it, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to wait until you feel better to start a new medication. You’ll be in a better position to assess how you tolerate it.

Blood pressure medications typically only cause dizziness momentarily and not in a prolonged fashion, usually when standing up quickly. “Dizziness” actually describes being “lightheaded” (feeling as if about to faint) than vertigo (feeling like the room is spinning). But the terms dizziness is used to describe a spectrum of sensations. Sometimes it takes a 2-3 weeks to get used to taking such medication.

Losartan is a very well tolerated drug though. If it doesn’t work out, know that there are numerous other medications to treat hypertension. There’s at least 10 different major classes of anti-hypertensives off the top of my head (depending on how you count them), many with subclasses of their own. I’d estimate there’s probably 80+ different drugs used to lower BP.

 

[fooferdoggie]

I think a lot of it was I just pushed my body too much on Friday. I didn't to work o=hard on my bike on my commute but we had to rush to get my wife to her vaccine appointment and rode way to hard on the tandem. harder then we ever have. it kinda of pushed me too far and I got sick as a dog. this used to happen years ago I would feel ok ride to work and by the middle f the day be sick like that. but back then I would have to take several days off to recover.
that a good info on the dizziness. I will start them tonight.

 

[fooferdoggie]

well the good part of taking the bp meds is I did not get dizzy. but as has been happening for the last several years my esophagus does not like them. I thought it was just because I suffered so much from the vaccinations but nope. the last several nights my esophagus has hurt so much it's a bad pain that wont let me sleep. pain I only would get if I didn't to eat enough. but I had eaten plenty. its been so bad I gained 4 pounds from al the protein powder I had to drink to make it through the night. but the real revealer is I took it when I got up and by the time I was done eating my esophagus is killing me like I have not eaten at all.
this has happened with every med I have attempted to take in the last several years including some that would help my esophagus. it is a harsh task master that runs my life.

 

[fooferdoggie]

ok well so far the first bp meds have been a failure. but the thing is I am not sure what's going on. one small dose triggered my esophagus but it was tolerable not super bad. but it did not lower my bp at all. so doc had me double it. well that kicked my epsagaus pain up several notches just below intolerable and my bp started to rise even on a day I rode 40 miles (thats usually when my bp is the lowest) Before my esophagus went crazy with pain about 5 years ago I had a lot of heartburn pain from it (not from acid reflux) but it did not hurt all the time. since it got so bad it never stops hurting but I have learned to ignore the constant low level pain. So I am starting to think most of my bp problems are from the constant pain. I know it can go up on Sundays if I push the diet pop too much. but it goes back down the next day. with so much pain from the bp meds it was going up and up.
thats the thing 30 or years ago I took protonic when it was prescription only and thats when my esophagus started having constant pain. it died down when I stoped taking it and only flared up when I was really sick. but carbs later on would trigger it if I ate much of them. then a month or so of Tylenol and anti inflamitories tripped it into constant intolerable pain. every since then every single med I tried makes it hurt more even meds that would help it.
a few days before my esophagus went thermal meltdown my bp was normal. I went to urgent care a day after d my p was way up and has never got down to the normal level and my esophagus has never stopped hurting to some extent since then.

 

[AG_PhamD]

ok well so far the first bp meds have been a failure. but the thing is I am not sure what's going on. one small dose triggered my esophagus but it was tolerable not super bad. but it did not lower my bp at all. so doc had me double it. well that kicked my epsagaus pain up several notches just below intolerable and my bp started to rise even on a day I rode 40 miles (thats usually when my bp is the lowest) Before my esophagus went crazy with pain about 5 years ago I had a lot of heartburn pain from it (not from acid reflux) but it did not hurt all the time. since it got so bad it never stops hurting but I have learned to ignore the constant low level pain. So I am starting to think most of my bp problems are from the constant pain. I know it can go up on Sundays if I push the diet pop too much. but it goes back down the next day. with so much pain from the bp meds it was going up and up.
thats the thing 30 or years ago I took protonic when it was prescription only and thats when my esophagus started having constant pain. it died down when I stoped taking it and only flared up when I was really sick. but carbs later on would trigger it if I ate much of them. then a month or so of Tylenol and anti inflamitories tripped it into constant intolerable pain. every since then every single med I tried makes it hurt more even meds that would help it.
a few days before my esophagus went thermal meltdown my bp was normal. I went to urgent care a day after d my p was way up and has never got down to the normal level and my esophagus has never stopped hurting to some extent since then.

I forget if we had this discussion, but have you seen a specialist for your acid reflux? Such as a gastroenterologist?

As for the blood pressure situation, indeed acid reflux can increase blood pressure and worsen underlying hypertension. I’m not sure what you BP is and what goals your doctor has, but there are alternatives to oral medications (ie tablets). As I mentioned before, there is a transdermal patches that adhere to your skin. There may be a couple sublingual options that dissolve under your tongue. There’s always rectal suppositories too.

It sounds like your symptoms significantly interfere with your day to day living and health.

I’m not sure if you’ve gone through all the non-pharmacological and pharmacological treatments for acid reflux, but surgery may be an option- which can be done in a minimally invasive manner.

Long term effects of acid reflux can be quite significant- including esophageal ulcers, and stricture (scarring- leading to difficulty swallowing), increased risk of esophageal cancer, tooth decay, and asthma. The longer this goes on, the greater the risks. And in some cases, as the condition continues, more and more damage can occur to your esophageal sphincter from the stomach acid, leading to progressively worse symptoms.