Apple’s Sept. 7 Event

[Deleted member 215]

You're right. Misunderstood again

I saw when they talked about eSIM-only in the 14. I guess I missed where they said it was part of the Pro as well.

 

[Andropov]

I'll be eagerly waiting for the S8 reviews and maybe consider getting one for Christmas. I sincerely hope the temperature sensor is actually useful (even if 'only' for cycle tracking), the last sensor they added (oxygen) seemed pretty gimmicky to me, I don't see how that could be useful to anyone.

Btw, just saw it mentioned somewhere else. The Apple Watch SoC hasn't been updated twice in a row? What could be happening here? Is is simply powerful/efficient enough already? Cutting costs? It's on TSMC's 7nm process, using the efficiency cores (Thunder) of the A13 Bionic.

 

[Renzatic]

yea well saying iPhone and big ass truck in the same breath can do that in some venues

What? You saying that just cuz I gots a big ass truck, I can’t have a lovely dainty white iPhone?

 

[Cmaier]

Yup, no sim tray for US. But you can have two e-sim numbers.

I am rocking two esims on my iPhone 13 Pro. Works great.

 

[Citysnaps]

After thinking about the iPhone 14 Pro Max and its upgraded cameras for awhile, and deciding I'll likely purchase one, thought I should make a mockup of it from a scrap piece of wood to compare with my 12 Pro that I use now. It fits comfortably in the pocket of the t-shirts I like to wear, so it looks like it's an official go.

 

[Cmaier]

I'll be eagerly waiting for the S8 reviews and maybe consider getting one for Christmas. I sincerely hope the temperature sensor is actually useful (even if 'only' for cycle tracking), the last sensor they added (oxygen) seemed pretty gimmicky to me, I don't see how that could be useful to anyone.

Btw, just saw it mentioned somewhere else. The Apple Watch SoC hasn't been updated twice in a row? What could be happening here? Is is simply powerful/efficient enough already? Cutting costs? It's on TSMC's 7nm process, using the efficiency cores (Thunder) of the A13 Bionic.

I’m guessing they just haven’t found a reason to update it. The power consumption by the processor is probably dwarfed by the screen and radios, and more speed wouldn’t enable any new uses?

 

[Citysnaps]

It's been awhile since I traded an iPhone into Apple while purchasing a new one.

I assume my credit card will be charged the full price for the new phone. And upon receiving it and transferring my old phone's data over, I send my old phone back to Apple in a prepaid mailer/box, and will get a credit for the quoted amount once it's received and check out. Or something like that.

Right?

 

[Runs For Fun]

Welp I ordered the Ultra. I’ll also be getting the 14 Pro Max and Air Pods Pro 2.

 

[Cmaier]

Welp I ordered the Ultra. I’ll also be getting the 14 Pro Max and Air Pods Pro 2.

You’re apple’s favorite kind of customer

I need to see the Ultra in person. It just looks kind of huge and odd to me so far.

 

[Clix Pix]

Watched the event with interest, as I always do, even though not planning on any purchases right now. Those days (actually, nights/very early mornings) when I would go and line up at the Apple Store well in advance of the store opening on Launch Day in order to get my hands on the newest iPhone have gone by the wayside. Those were fun and they are definitely fun memories, though!

Apple Watch: eventually I will be replacing my Series 3 but I am not in any rush to do so. It was good to see what's on offer, though a lot doesn't really pertain to me or interest me. It was lo these many moons ago that I was in the stage of life where ovulation and my monthly cycles were of concern.... I'm not into exercise in a major way, and certainly not into intensive, extreme sports where I would be in situations where the Apple Watch Ultra would be something useful to me. The extra battery life isn't an issue here, and I wonder how many people realize that although the watch body is larger, that the actual visible screen is probably the same size as the regular largest size Apple Watch faces?

I have the sneaking suspicion that a lot of people who eagerly jump to order and buy one of these Ultra watches are not at all into sports or activity, but rather are not seeing beyond the extended battery life or getting excited about the potential "look at me, I've got the newest Apple Watch!" factor. Whether or not Apple intended for the Ultra to be a fashion statement I'm sure that there will be some who purchase one for just what they want to be as the reason. I suspect that there may be many returns, too, when their new prize that they ordered sight-unseen on Day One is larger and maybe bulkier, definitely different than what they were anticipating and not really meant as an everyday watch.... That said, I think the target audience for the Apple Watch Ultra will be delighted with it. In the meantime, there are nice choices in the other Apple Watch Series 8 offerings, too....

AirPods: since I am not interested in these, won't ever buy any because I can't use them, I took the time that was being expended on announcing whatever is new with them and promoting them to go into another room and fold and put away the laundry I'd done earlier in the day. That girl's presentation style and the yellow outfit sure didn't help me decide to stay and watch anyway! Anyway, for those who are excited about the new version of the AirPods, enjoy!

iPhone 14: meh. I was waiting for the info about the iPhone 14 Pro. This, the Pro, is what I will eventually replace my current iPhone 12 Pro with but again I am not in any hurry. Dynamic Island? Now that is really cool! Camera features? They sound pretty good! Even though I use my "real" cameras for most of my images, there are times when I'll grab my iPhone and fire off a shot or two, either at home or when out-and-about away from home and I see something interesting.

Onward and upward now towards the next Apple event, which if rumors are correct, will occur some time in October or maybe November....

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Welp I ordered the Ultra. I’ll also be getting the 14 Pro Max and Air Pods Pro 2.

. I did the same. Still not sure if I'm going for the Pro 2 yet.

 

[Cmaier]

…..

Apple Watch: eventually I will be replacing my Series 3 but I am not in any rush to do so. It was good to see what's on offer, though a lot doesn't really pertain to me or interest me. It was lo these many moons ago that I was in the stage of life where ovulation and my monthly cycles were of concern.... I'm not into exercise in a major way, and certainly not into intensive, extreme sports where I would be in situations where the Apple Watch Ultra would be something useful to me. The extra battery life isn't an issue here, and I wonder how many people realize that although the watch body is larger, that the actual visible screen is probably the same size as the regular largest size Apple Watch faces?

…

iPhone 14: meh. I was waiting for the info about the iPhone 14 Pro. This, the Pro, is what I will eventually replace my current iPhone 12 Pro with but again I am not in any hurry. Dynamic Island? Now that is really cool! Camera features? They sound pretty good! Even though I use my "real" cameras for most of my images, there are times when I'll grab my iPhone and fire off a shot or two, either at home or when out-and-about away from home and I see something interesting.

FWIW, the screen is definitely signficantly bigger. This is reflected in some of the watch faces, which now have enough room to show 8 complications. I agree that the iPhone 14 Pro was the best thing they announced; it was also the only real surprise (i.e. the dynamic island),

 

[DT]

Welp I ordered the Ultra. I’ll also be getting the 14 Pro Max and Air Pods Pro 2.

I'm kind of thinking about changing over to Air Pods, especially this new Pro 2 model, just kind of packing up my full sized headphones, tube amp, I already cleared my DAC off my desk. I'm so much about minimal footprint, simplifying, convenience vs. "enthusiast" type electronics like full sized wired headphones using an external DAC and amp

I use headphones at my desk so rarely, I think I'd get more use with something that has great sound quality AND is portable/convenient.

That was a huge factor in not getting a whole new setup of huge, wired speakers, keeping the AVR and going with the Sonos. Two speakers, less wires, no AVR, sounds amazing, excellent voice control, simple, clean.

 

[Runs For Fun]

You’re apple’s favorite kind of customer

I need to see the Ultra in person. It just looks kind of huge and odd to me so far.

It's chonky for sure, but the look is kind of growing on me. Plus it's perfect for me since I do ultra marathons.

 

[Cmaier]

It's chonky for sure, but the look is kind of growing on me. Plus it's perfect for me since I do ultra marathons.

i do whatever the opposite of ultra marathons is. Slowly meandering to the kitchen?

If apple has updated other non-athletic/non-out-in-nature watchfaces to make use of the space, I may be interested. But they didn’t show anything like that.

 

[tomO2013]

So pre-announcement I went in somewhat cynical that this would be a big release. Honestly I’d see the mockups over at the other place and was feeling somewhat ‘meh’ about everything on offer.
However… actually seeing the watch ultra and I gotta say the style has really grown on me. Order in.

On Friday I’m definitely going to get a pair of airpod 2’s. I use this daily and the battery on mine has noticeably taken a hit over the last year - it doesn’t help that my apple care has run out on them.
As for the iPhone, this may have been one of the bigger updates to the iPhone from my perspective in years …
- always on… meh… nice to have but wouldn’t make me want to jump ship.
- Better battery life… yes please!
- 48mp quad pixel and better low light images from the 60% larger sensor …. I’m in.
- Brighter screen for when I’m flying my drone outdoors … yes please!

All told, this has been a significant wallet lightening exercise watching the keynote.
Regarding the A16 - if the specifications hold up to what apple was suggesting… 20% less power for the performance cores. I’m very interested to see what these cores get on GB5 and the usual benchmarketing tests. Last year I remember folks were quite negative about the A15 at launch only to find that the A15 came with significant performance gains on the efficiency cores over regular A14! I suspect it will be much the same this year.
Apple didn’t really give anything away either about the GPU - other than the increase in memory bandwidth. Anybody want to guess/speculate whether this is a new GPU core or a breathed over A15 GPU ?
The increase in transistor count doesn’t suggest to me that it deviates much from what exists already in A15.

 

[theorist9]

I didn't watch, because there were no Mac announcements. I hope everyone enjoyed it, though. I saw that the A16 is on 4nm, which is interesting, considering that M2 was on 5NP. I wonder if this lends credence to M2 Pro/Max/Ultra/Extreme/Bodacious being 3nm? I know TSMC couldn't handle A-series volume on the rumored early 3nm process, but perhaps a lower volume product like high-end Macs are something TSMC could manage?

TSMC's marketing terminology is confusing but, according to this TSMC announcement, N4 and N4P (what the A16 uses) are both still 5 nm:

https://pr.tsmc.com/english/news/2874

 

[Pumbaa]

Welp I ordered the Ultra. I’ll also be getting the 14 Pro Max and Air Pods Pro 2.

But did you order them in all available colors?

 

[Colstan]

TSMC's marketing terminology is confusing but, according to this TSMC announcement, N4 and N4P (what the A16 uses) are both still 5 nm:

Thanks for the info, @theorist9. My question was more along the lines of the rumor of the high-end M2 models using 3nm, because we're seeing a slow progression to better processes, even if it's, as you pointed out, somewhat marketing fluff. Our esteemed @Cmaier has heard such rumblings about the M2 Pro, etc. using early 3nm, so that's what I was alluding to, and whether that will actually come to pass. We likely won't know until release, or at least close to it.

 

[Andropov]

So A16 has about a billion more transistors than A15, battery life is up slightly, and it went from N5 to N4. So I’m guessing that there will be a noticeable speed improvement in the CPU cores (otherwise I’d expect the battery life to have increased by more), but I’m looking forward to seeing some testing once these things are out in the wild. I think M-series chips are going to share cores with A-series chips for the foreseeable future, so it will give us some good insights into what to expect for M3.

If this Geekbench result is to be believed, the speed improvements look minimal. But it's obviously unconfirmed yet. Also weird that single core perf went up by ~10% while multicore stayed the same.