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to make his base happy, tariffs must be either 14% or 88%
Electric Vehicles: General topics
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Why not...... 420%?
So, this is an old model at this point (I deliberately bought the last of the current gen, planning to either upgrade or keep this at the end of 3 years when the EV situation in australia shakes out, and/or the Rav4 plug in hybrid arrives or new model rav4 has had a couple of years for the bugs to shake out), but now I’ve driven it for 1500km and it has had its first check up…
Real world economy (hybrid AWD):
- mixed: 5L/100km or better (have seen 4.6L on a 45km run to work this morning through fairly heavy traffic). (47mpg US)
- highway (110km/h brief periods up to 130km/h to overtake): 5.8-5.9L/100km (40.5mpg US). I did a 1000km round-trip to see my parents over easter and laughed when i topped the tank up for the return journey. Combination of lack of fuel consumption plus regular fuel instead of premium high octane = low cost
It’s fast enough. Its not a rocket ship, but easily keeps up with traffic, overtakes comfortably, but during the commute is quiet, relaxing and comfortable. Fun fact: its about as quick as a 1990 Toyota Celica GT4 in a straight line! Progress!
Seating is comfortable in the front, comfortable in the back, my mother commented that the back was “like the range rover” (parents have a range rover sport), which in terms of comfort is pretty high praise i think. This one is aussie “cruiser” spec which has real leather.
Comfortably seats 4 with both front occupants 6’ and 6’4" and rear occupants 5’4-5’7"
I’m happy with it! Its probably the most practical, comfortable car I’ve owned.
I know hybrids have been around forever at this point but a lot of people maybe haven’t driven one. Pretty much anything toyota makes now is available in hybrid and IMO very much worth it vs. the regular gas model.
And the kicker (thanks chatgpt)...
Fixed price servicing of $260/yr, cheaper purchase price, ability to do >1000 km in a day if i want and fill anywhere... much faster queue if there is one at the pump/charger, also much nicer interior than a model 3 (real leather seats, real buttons for HVAC, indicators, etc...)
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Are you in a location where you can charge at home? If not, the comparison is fair (fast charging is not any cheaper than gas here in the USA either), but charging at home is the real boon with an EV IMO, and that’s where fuel cost savings can come into play as it’s AC charging that is cheap, not the DC fast charging.
I was paying an average of 0.15$ US per mile with my last gas car (Subaru Outback). Charging at home, it’s more like 0.03$ to 0.04$ depending on time of year. So I went from paying around 1400$/year for fuel to 300$/year. So when I have to pay 40-100$ for the fuel on the longer trips? Eh. Now if I was on the road doing long trips all the time, much smaller savings.
But I also pay 0.10$ per kWh at home, while fast charging nearby is 0.48$ for Electrify America while Tesla is 0.26$ off-peak and 0.48$ peak.
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I just drove 180 miles and got over 4mi/kWh, which is way over EPA spec for my car (which, by the range number, would be ~3.3). But, almost nobody drives the way I do (I was driving an '02 Prius recently and getting over 50mpg on longer trips). It takes some effort to get max efficiency, but once you develop the habits, it becomes second nature.
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So it appears we are going to slide back/more towards the wild west for vehicle autonomy in the states...
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IMO something has to give here though, I had high (maybe too high?) hopes for my Tesla but in the end shut off/stopped using automation entirely because it spent more time watching what I was doing than assisting with driving and it was all due to overregulation.
It's a bit like the drone industry that a few accidents by idiots force extreme regulations. It will never be perfect but it's been way too restrictive for any sort of practical use and they need to lighten up on it.
