Electric Vehicles: Tesla specific talk, current firmware, purchasing, modifications

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Yoused said:
That makes no sense. There were numerous shadows it was not confused by. If you go to :32 in the YT video, you see that there is a gray pickup on the left and a sign on the right that I think says "watch for trucks", so it must have been distracted by the pickup and wanted to turn around and follow it.
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My favorite comment on the video said something like: “to be fair, it thought that tree was a child”
 


So here is the report. They claimed they also uploaded the CSV but I don't see it. What do you guys think?
 
Cmaier said:
Looks like it thought the shadow in the road was an object and tried to avoid it. Good thing Elon is too cheap to use LIDAR. Gotta keep those teslas crashing into trees.
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Have literally had cult members argue with me that FSD will get better with the army of cars generating mass amounts of data and in the same breath argue that if they were to use lidar/radar and other sensors in addition to cameras the AI will "get confused" (from too much input) and that vision only is superior because that's how humans see things.

Seriously...
 
I do wonder how other cars real with things like puddles or debris in the road. For the longest time Tesla's just ignored their existence and plowed ahead. I've not seen how others deal with it.
 
Yoused said:
That seems to be the biggest flaw in Tesla "FSD": I don't know what that is, so I will just drive right through it at full speed. Kind of the exact opposite of what a good driver would do.
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It probably will be too annoying to use otherwise because there'll be too much phantom braking. Even now the phantom braking can be disruptive.
 
swk9 said:
It probably will be too annoying to use otherwise because there'll be too much phantom braking. Even now the phantom braking can be disruptive.
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And flat out scary AF when you're driving at freeway speeds.
 
Eric said:
And flat out scary AF when you're driving at freeway speeds.
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I have not had any of that happen on the v12/v13 stack. Only when using the v11 (basically not FSD) stack have I seen it act that way. I've also not had it swerve for shadows on the road during the day. Anecdote is not evidence....
 
diamond.g said:
I have not had any of that happen on the v12/v13 stack. Only when using the v11 (basically not FSD) stack have I seen it act that way. I've also not had it swerve for shadows on the road during the day. Anecdote is not evidence....
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I have, picture driving at 75 MPH and then slamming on your brakes for absolutely no reason.
 
Eric said:
I have, picture driving at 75 MPH and then slamming on your brakes for absolutely no reason.
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Interesting, the NN stack seems to have more of an issue maintaining speed than flat out slamming on brakes. Were you using v11 stack? I only ask because there is a difference between FSD and Autopilot.
 
diamond.g said:
Interesting, the NN stack seems to have more of an issue maintaining speed than flat out slamming on brakes. Were you using v11 stack? I only ask because there is a difference between FSD and Autopilot.
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No idea about any of that, just a regular driver who let the car update itself as it saw fit but none of it seemed to matter as it randomly did it throughout the entire time I owned the car. My BMW does not have that issue.
 
Eric said:
No idea about any of that, just a regular driver who let the car update itself as it saw fit but none of it seemed to matter as it randomly did it throughout the entire time I owned the car. My BMW does not have that issue.
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Yeah v11 was terrible at that. The older versions like v8/9 was great at not phantom breaking but it strictly used the radar.

The stopping at red lights and stop signs of v11 city stuff was cool though.
 
Whoohoo! For real this time!

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Cmaier said:
Whoohoo! For real this time!

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Tanzanite blue! My wife’s i4 is red, as is my Tesla Model S, so I felt like going a different way this time (I am not a fan of grey-scale cars, though my old grey boxster was pretty nice). Plus my wife’s engagement ring is tanzanite instead of diamond (don’t hate me, ladies - she demanded tanzanite, so i gave her a diamond neckless too!), so it’s sort of an inside joke here.

as for wheels, I really never care about them, other than I didn’t want to go too huge just because of range and puncture issues.

The backstory seems to be that BMW is still hesitant to ship these into the U.S., but they’re shipping some and there was some level of negotiation between the dealer and BMW to get them to move on mine (I don’t discount the possibility that the dealer may be making this up).
 
Cmaier said:
Tanzanite blue! My wife’s i4 is red, as is my Tesla Model S, so I felt like going a different way this time (I am not a fan of grey-scale cars, though my old grey boxster was pretty nice). Plus my wife’s engagement ring is tanzanite instead of diamond (don’t hate me, ladies - she demanded tanzanite, so i gave her a diamond neckless too!), so it’s sort of an inside joke here.

as for wheels, I really never care about them, other than I didn’t want to go too huge just because of range and puncture issues.
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Glad it's working out, looks like a great color and I couldn't be happier with mine.

Cmaier said:
The backstory seems to be that BMW is still hesitant to ship these into the U.S., but they’re shipping some and there was some level of negotiation between the dealer and BMW to get them to move on mine (I don’t discount the possibility that the dealer may be making this up).
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Yeah the feds aren't playing around right now, DJI sent me a new drone replacement out of Canada 2 weeks ago and as soon as it ended up in Louisville, KY it was put on a customs hold where it sits to this day with no sign of being released and neither DJI nor UPS can do anything to change that. It's looking like there's a good chance my $4500 will be flushed. Welcome to Donald Trump's America.
 
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