FBI executed search warrant at Mar-a-Lago

[Cmaier]

Hilarious.

 

[fooferdoggie]

Sounds like the RNC has had it with Trump raising his own money without cutting them in. Almost like Trump is a well known con man and Republicans are just now realizing the truth that's been in front of them this entire time.

RNC not paying legal fees over Trump's Mar-a-Lago document investigation: Report​

RNC not paying legal fees over Trump’s Mar-a-Lago document investigation: Report - Washington Examiner

The Republican National Committee has so far footed the bill for much of former President Donald Trump's legal woes, though it won't be helping on matters stemming from the FBI’s investigation and retrieval of documents at his Florida estate.A source told Politico Tuesday that Trump would have...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Trump Holds Onto Piles of Cash, Gives None to GOP Candidates

Donald Trump’s Save America ended January with $108 million in the bank, yet the former president’s political action committee didn’t donate any of it last month to the dozens of candidates he’s backing.

www.bloomberg.com

man talk about slow to catch on. so if they are so easily fooled they are pretty much useless as some kind of control.

 

[Eric]

Hilarious.

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He's always the funniest parody of himself, you get why SNL had such a hard time writing for him because the implausible exaggerations are just too real.

 

[Runs For Fun]

And… there’s already a grand jury that issued the subpoenas for this stuff. Trump’s goose is cooked.

I feel like an indictment will be coming soon for stealing top secret documents. I wonder though if they will get him on anything with January 6th. If not now would they be able to indict him later on that?

 

[GermanSuplex]

Trump isn't getting a special master - DoJ clapback was brutal..

https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/DOJgov.uscourts.flsd.618763.48.1_1.pdf

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

I feel like an indictment will be coming soon for stealing top secret documents. I wonder though if they will get him on anything with January 6th. If not now would they be able to indict him later on that?

Wishful thinking and unlikely, but it would be nice if just one case landed him in prison where he'll spend the rest of his life battling further cases. I'm sure suddenly he'd not be interested in his mountain of delay tactics he reflexively uses. But even without those there would probably be enough cases where he'd die before they all go to court.

 

[Renzatic]

Wishful thinking and unlikely, but it would be nice if just one case landed him in prison where he'll spend the rest of his life battling further cases. I'm sure suddenly he'd not be interested in his mountain of delay tactics he reflexively uses. But even without those there would probably be enough cases where he'd die before they all go to court.

There's absolutely no way Trump will avoid an indictment by this point. The charges have been presented, the crime illustrated, the evidence displayed for all the world to see. For Garland to go this far, and not push things to their inevitable conclusion would be unimaginably stupid on his part.

It's going to happen, though I wouldn't expect to see any movement on it until after the midterms.

 

[Eric]

There's absolutely no way Trump will avoid an indictment by this point. The charges have been presented, the crime illustrated, the evidence displayed for all the world to see. For Garland to go this far, and not push things to their inevitable conclusion would be unimaginably stupid on his part.

It's going to happen, though I wouldn't expect to see any movement on it until after the midterms.

I'm split on this one, it seems like it will be legally warranted but at the same time Trump has gotten to slide on literally every heinous thing he's ever done.

 

[Alli]

I'm throwing a party WHEN that happens lmao

Fixed it for ya.

 

[Renzatic]

I'm split on this one, it seems like it will be legally warranted but at the same time Trump has gotten to slide on literally every heinous thing he's ever done.

Trump was saved previously because he had the protections of the highest office in the land, an entire political party backing him, a DOJ acting as his personal defense, and no smoking gun you could beat over their heads.

That's not the case here. Even if the Republicans still continue to support Trump, the case against him is so damning, so open and shut, that they can't rely on the vagaries to help them save face. They're being faced with the choice to either to continue to serve and protect America, or throw it all away for Trump.

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

There's absolutely no way Trump will avoid an indictment by this point. The charges have been presented, the crime illustrated, the evidence displayed for all the world to see. For Garland to go this far, and not push things to their inevitable conclusion would be unimaginably stupid on his part.

It's going to happen, though I wouldn't expect to see any movement on it until after the midterms.

Yeah, but all it takes is one MAGA hat owner on the jury to derail the whole thing.

 

[Renzatic]

Yeah, but all it takes is one MAGA hat owner on the jury to derail the whole thing.

The thing is, they'll never get that not guilty verdict. The absolute best they can hope for is a hung jury, which will only lead to another trial.

 

[Alli]

Given how easy it is to make digital copies, he, or another individual could have already distributed this information to "interested parties".

I don’t doubt he has already done so.

 

[GermanSuplex]

From the DOJ response objecting to a special master;

"Plaintiff’s Motion, in fact, asserts that “[t]he documents seized at Mar-a-Lago on August 8, 2022 . . . were created during his term as President.” D.E. 1 at 15. These are precisely the types of documents that likely constitute Presidential records."

By admitting these are presidential records, he essentially admits he has no authority over them. The DoJ completed its examination of everything they took... Trump's lawyers may be hanging him and offering further evidence for the government with their lame delay tactics.

Also:

Evidence of commingling personal effects with documents bearing classification markings is relevant evidence of the statutory offenses under investigation.

Whining about how your personal stuff is mixed up with top secret documents isn't exactly a great defense either, which the government was correct to put out there. Trump's personal artifacts mixed with the documents is proof of mishandling, possibly willfully (which we already know is the case).

 

[Clix Pix]

When this goes to trial, is there a possibility that the ruling could be NGRI (Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity).....in which case he'd wind up going to a federal psychiatric facility such as St Elizabeth's in DC rather than prison?

 

[Alli]

When this goes to trial, is there a possibility that the ruling could be NGRI (Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity).....in which case he'd wind up going to a federal psychiatric facility such as St Elizabeth's in DC rather than prison?

Doubtful.

 

[Renzatic]

Doubtful.

He has way too much pride to attempt an insanity plea. Even then, the amount of excuses and accusations he's made since is, by itself, proof that he was entirely cognizant of what he did.

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

When this goes to trial, is there a possibility that the ruling could be NGRI (Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity).....in which case he'd wind up going to a federal psychiatric facility such as St Elizabeth's in DC rather than prison?

The closest he could possibly attempt is ignorance of the law via surrounding himself with the best (worst) people. But I think he pretty much killed that excuse opportunity by not turning over the documents when they were requested multiple times.

Maybe they should try not guilty by reason of being a sociopath. That would probably be more accurate.

 

[thekev]

The thing is, they'll never get that not guilty verdict. The absolute best they can hope for is a hung jury, which will only lead to another trial.

I suspect he would spin that as not guilty, and use it in his fundraising efforts.

 

[fooferdoggie]

I suspect he would spin that as not guilty, and use it in his fundraising efforts.

I am suprised trump doesn ot sue needing top go to Mcdonalds as a excuse to fund raise to make himself richer.