Jan 6 Committee Public Hearings

People can say what they want about Pence but he stood up and did the right thing in the face of Trump, his wrath and his rioters that day and deserves respect for it.
But was it Him or his fly that did it? but then he flopped on his back and gave trump his belly.
 
But was it Him or his fly that did it? but then he flopped on his back and gave trump his belly.
His aides tried to convince him to leave the grounds and he refused, saying it was his duty to stay behind and finish with the vote counts to certify, which he did even though it showed he and Trump lost. It was a standup move on his part.
 
His aides tried to convince him to leave the grounds and he refused, saying it was his duty to stay behind and finish with the vote counts to certify, which he did even though it showed he and Trump lost. It was a standup move on his part.
till it came tim rewmoving trump then he flopped on his back and showed his belly to trump.
 
His aides tried to convince him to leave the grounds and he refused, saying it was his duty to stay behind and finish with the vote counts to certify, which he did even though it showed he and Trump lost. It was a standup move on his part.


I heard it was out of fear of being disappeared or sidelined if he left. I can't really say I blame him if that was true. In that moment I'd say he probably felt he had more allies in congress members than outside. The President and his mob certainly weren't on his side and who knows which side members of security were on. Nobody knew how deep the conspiracy reached. It already went well beyond what a reasonable person would consider possible.
 
I heard it was out of fear of being disappeared or sidelined if he left. I can't really say I blame him if that was true. In that moment I'd say he probably felt he had more allies in congress members than outside. The President and his mob certainly weren't on his side and who knows which side members of security were on. Nobody knew how deep the conspiracy reached. It already went well beyond what a reasonable person would consider possible.
Just pointing out what his aid said under oath during today's testimony, they pretty much thought Trump was off his rocker (which he was) and wanted to proceed once the rioters had gone.
 
I also want to know more about Chuck Grassley. Why did he think Pence would not return to complete the count? Why did he think he’d be there instead?

Jared Kushner is a complete and utter piece of 💩… ”sorry I’m too busy pardoning rich crooks to care about lawyers whining about the election”
Kushner is enough to make this Jew anti-Semitic.
 
People can say what they want about Pence but he stood up and did the right thing in the face of Trump, his wrath and his rioters that day and deserves respect for it.

Yeah, but why did he keep all of this hidden? He was sort of simultaneously protecting Trump. His action was huge, but at the same time, the literal least he could do. Where is he at? Why doesn’t he testify? Why not at least publically rebuke Trump beyond just saying “I couldn’t overturn the election”?

Its sort of like protecting someone from a predator - no doubt to be commended - but then not calling the cops, which leaves the person free to carry on.

Trump is continually pushing this lies, it’s only gained steam since Jan. 6, and few if any of these people have a true backbone. How can someone who cares about this country sit by while a dolt like Trump is engaging in all of this horrible conduct?
 
People can say what they want about Pence but he stood up and did the right thing in the face of Trump, his wrath and his rioters that day and deserves respect for it.

Eh. He did the politically-expedient thing for his own future candidacy (he was never going to win running as a MAGA, and at the time it looked like Trump was trying to set up a family dynasty). He didn’t stand up and tell the world what was going on the prior four years, which is part of what allowed it to get to this. He didn’t try to stop trump all the prior chances he had. He didn’t invoke the 25th amendment. He didn’t testify. I’m not going to pat him on the back for not participating in the coup. Not going to set the bar that low.

If he came forward and testified - “this is what Trump told me. This is what the plan was.“ - so that we can get to the bottom of it, maybe get some justice, and maybe stop it from happening again - then he will have done something.
 
Out of curiosity, I thought it would be interesting to see murdoch-like coverage of the hearings. Which was a fool's errand. I mean you can only scroll so far down the page in futility before the newsea makes your gorge rise and you either have to run to the bathroom or close the page.
 
LMAO 🤣. I was actually wondering if the audio was cutting out or the stream was buffering as I was watching it on YouTube.

He struck me as the sort of guy who thinks every word out of his mouth is an absolute pearl of wisdom, a precious jewel of incomprehensible worth that the listener must savor and contemplate in order to fully understand the many levels of genius embodied in each and every sentence.
 
I think he may have been suffering from some kind of medical condition; perhaps an underlying neurologic disorder affecting speech - there's a range of possibilities that can cause slow speech - especially at his age. I absolutely don't think he was trying to put on any kind of airs. To me it was clear he was struggling.

I liked what he had to say.
 
And they play the recording back at normal speed. These broadcasters all have the Time Machine, used to compress shows to give them more room for ads, but they cannot be arsed to use it on that. Come on.
 
He can demand his son come home from the coke dealers house for all I care. He had his chance. This is more gaslighting of his base. I'm sure the January 6 committee would be perfectly happy to listen to Trump absolve himself under oath.
 
I think he may have been suffering from some kind of medical condition; perhaps an underlying neurologic disorder affecting speech - there's a range of possibilities that can cause slow speech - especially at his age. I absolutely don't think he was trying to put on any kind of airs. To me it was clear he was struggling.

I liked what he had to say.
After listening to him for all that time, it occurred to me he might have something like COPD. When he had the breath he spoke, when he didn’t he struggled.
 
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