Jan 6 Committee Public Hearings

First of all who controls that State’s government?

The last time Trump failed, it was because not enough government elements had been subverted. Some steps have been taken at the State level to correct this.

I’m no expert on this, but I know what Trump forces wanted last time, a declaration of fraud and if the State has made provisions for the State legislature to overrule the board of elections, it’s a done deal. This is primary. The (State) Sec of State refuses to certify an election based on a vague claim of election fraud, the State Government agrees and electors for the Forces of Evil are put forward to count in the National election results.


Still don't get it. I don't believe you can just claim fraud and reverse a decision based entirely on just a claim, case closed. No recourse.
 
According to police, nothing suspicious 🙄


Not sure if this is what happens, but I would like to think that anybody given a tour of a major government building would have to provide some form of ID and sign in. Connect the dots from there.
 
First of all who controls that State’s government?

The last time Trump failed, it was because not enough government elements had been subverted. Some steps have been taken at the State level to correct this.

I’m no expert on this, but I know what Trump forces wanted last time, a declaration of fraud and if the State has made provisions for the State legislature to overrule the board of elections, it’s a done deal. This is primary. The (State) Sec of State refuses to certify an election based on a vague claim of election fraud, the State Government agrees and electors for the Forces of Evil are put forward to count in the National election results.


Seems like a small scale test run of what we are talking about, but sounds like the end result is a delay in certification pending an investigation, not an automatic win for the board's favored candidate.
 
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Speaking of elections...


Wonderful: "The RNC’s state-based staffers are holding “election integrity training” events that encourage activists to become poll workers and poll watchers."

And they have the audacity to use the word "integrity." A real knee-slapper. Smells like voter intimidation to me.
This is part of their plan to overturn elections and it's quite disturbing.
 
Today’s hearing was cancelled, but there will be one tomorrow, and 2 more:

June 16, 2022: 1:00 p.m. Eastern
June 21, 2022: 1:00 p.m. Eastern
June 23, 2022: 1:00 p.m. Eastern


Anybody can feel free to edit the WikiPost if you can. I have a permissions error that has been impossible to resolve.
 
Today’s hearing was cancelled, but there will be one tomorrow, and 2 more:

June 16, 2022: 1:00 p.m. Eastern
June 21, 2022: 1:00 p.m. Eastern
June 23, 2022: 1:00 p.m. Eastern


Anybody can feel free to edit the WikiPost if you can. I have a permissions error that has been impossible to resolve.
It wasn't cancelled.

It was just moved to next week, to keep the number of hearings a little more manageable each week.*
*That was an explanation the congresswoman gave Rachel Maddow last night.

 
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Still don't get it. I don't believe you can just claim fraud and reverse a decision based entirely on just a claim, case closed. No recourse.
You mean like how politicians can ignore evidence of treason and fail to impeach? :oops:
For Jan6:

  • There was fraud!
  • Fraud documentation provided by any number of GOP fiction writer accomplishes. Think of the Dominion voter accusation. . Think boxes of fraudulent voter dumps being delivered in Detroit at all hours as cited by the Head POS.
  • Let’s take a vote, was there fraud, how do you feel in your heart?
  • Yes, lots of fraud! It’s unanimous, put forth the Trump electors!
Here is the key, if the GOP can do it they will. They don’t care as long as STUPID back home cheers them and no one has the power to arrest them. Look at how they orchestrated at least one new SCOTUS Justice. They denied Obama‘s chance because…they could and there was no one able or willing to stop them.

Look at how Justice Thomas’s wife conducted herself during the 2020 election Communicating with crucial state GOP officials. All that is required is a vague accusation of fraud, no-evidence-required.
 
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because…they could and there was no one able or willing to stop them
There was this guy, he used to be an "actor" (I saw one movie where he did not quite amberheard the bed, but only just), he became the big wonderful hero of the Rs and their Destroy the Govenment! movement. One of his big, loud drumbeats was "Never speak ill of a fellow R." The R Party forms a hive, a firm bloc of we got each others backs, which is what makes it so hard to fight their stupid. To go against Yertle would have been suicide for any R.
 
You mean like how politicians can ignore evidence of treason and fail to impeach? :oops:
For Jan6:

  • There was fraud!
  • Fraud documentation provided by any number of GOP fiction writer accomplishes. Think of the Dominion voter accusation. . Think boxes of fraudulent voter dumps being delivered in Detroit at all hours as cited by the Head POS.
  • Let’s take a vote, was there fraud, how do you feel in your heart?
  • Yes, lots of fraud! It’s unanimous, put forth the Trump electors!
Here is the key, if the GOP can do it they will. They don’t care as long as STUPID back home cheers them and no one has the power to arrest them. Look at how they orchestrated at least one new SCOTUS Justice. They denied Obama‘s chance because…they could and there was no one able or willing to stop them.

Look at how Justice Thomas’s wife conducted herself during the 2020 election Communicating with crucial state GOP officials. All that is required is a vague accusation of fraud, no-evidence-required.

I think a lot of it comes down to Democrat politicians just giving up and not wanting to play hard ball. They’d rather lose than not be seen as the nice guy. Their potential voters see that and they lose that vote as a result. They probably won’t vote Republican. They just won’t vote which is also part of the Republican playbook. Show people its pointless to fight back or to believe the Democrats are capable of fighting back and winning that fight. Trump showed Republicans they no longer have to lie about who they are and it will cost them very little at the polls. Has to be a huge weight off their back.
 
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This finally might get the focus it should have always gotten


The capital police says it wasn't suspicious, but the committee is still looking into it?

Now the capitol police are suspicious.

So if you follow along. Loudermilk claimed he didn't give a tour. Got upset about accusations he did, claims he & other republicans looked at footage and found nothing. Then video shows up and suddenly he DID give a tour, but it was a family. We now find out that one of that "family" was at 1/6 and wanting some congress people.



Capitol head cop says nothing was suspicious because the tour didn't go into specific areas, but it did & the tour was for hours.

It's clear and was pointed out that on Jan 3rd covid restrictions were still in place and NO tours were allowed. Even capitol police couldn't bring family members in.

WTF?!

This really needs it own bright intense focus.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1537105522893238272/
 
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I think a lot of it comes down to Democrat politicians just giving up and not wanting to play hard ball. They’d rather lose than not be seen as the nice guy. Their potential voters see that and they lose that vote as a result. They probably won’t vote Republican. They just won’t vote which is also part of the Republican playbook. Show people its pointless to fight back or to believe the Democrats are capable of fighting back and winning that fight. Trump showed Republicans they no longer have to lie about who they are and it will cost them very little at the polls. Has to be a huge weight off their back.
I don’t disagree, if there is a time to stand up for principles might as well do it now versus this slow corrosive drip eating away at us. When we allow our selfish, racist politics to trump criminality, when our laws and rights are illusions, a third are for it, and the other two thirds don’t care, we are screwed and rightfully so. When over half the voters in 2024 election picks The Head POS to finish the job he started in 2016, it’s just another variation of the Jonestown Cult or civil war Pt2. :oops:
 
I don’t disagree, if there is a time to stand up for principles might as well do it now versus this slow corrosive drip eating away at us. When we allow our selfish, racist politics to trump criminality, when our laws and rights are illusions, a third are for it, and the other two thirds don’t care, we are screwed and rightfully so. When over half the voters in 2024 election picks The Head POS to finish the job he started in 2016, it’s just another variation of the Jonestown Cult or civil war Pt2. :oops:

Also Democrats need to stop trying to almost entirely appeal to center right moderates. Clearly Manchin is an outlier and pariah within the party and yet that’s the worldview the establishment Democrats think they need to court the most. It’s their own minority rule microbubble.

Who are the candidates that people got excited to vote for in recent history?

Obama
Sanders
Trump

Not a middle of the road candidate in there. In Obama’s case its mostly based on his race but that still was a major step for our country that can’t be seen as insignificant. People who think we’re going to middle of the road ourselves out of this mess live in their own delusional bubble clutching the pearls of a bygone reality that doesn’t exist for most people. Major change is needed, not fighting to preserve a system that has either failed or screwed most people.
 
The days of landslide victories in U.S. presidential elections (e.g., Reagan over Mondale) are probably long gone. With few exceptions, Republicans will vote for any one who isn’t a Democrat and vice versa. Given the antiquated, undemocratic electoral college system, it doesn’t take much to swing the pendulum one way or another. Republicans have already laid the groundwork by enacting voter suppression laws and putting in people who will create enough chaos to throw key state results in doubt.

The judiciary by and large held firm against Giuliani and his keystone cops in 2020, but I have little faith for 2022 and 2024. And I have just as little confidence in the SCOTUS acting as a reliable backstop with people like Ginni Thomas feeding seditious talk to her husband.
 
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