Musk going full Nazi

[Cmaier]

Do you have a 14-50R in the garage? I switched the receptacle in our garage from a 10-50 to a 14-50 (it was just a little bit of wiring) and use the EVSE that came with the car (I plan to get a plug-in charger soon, but the cable works fine for now).

Nope. My house has some other weird-ass NEMA plug behind the dryer - looks like it’s 30A and has no ground. The only time I had a 14-50 was for a week when I got the Tesla. They first came and installed that until the wall connector was available, then they put the wall connector on the box.

In theory I could remove the tesla wall connector and put a 14-50 there myself, but the breaker is at least 80A (I can’t remember), and the wires are super thick and annoying to deal with, so I’d rather just have an electrician come.

In the end, we’re going to have one NACS and one J1772 car until probably august or september, then in 3 years we’ll end up with 2 NACS cars, so I feel like the Tesla Universal charger is the easiest way to solve the problem. That way I can open the Tesla’s charge port from the handle, don’t have to deal with manually attaching/detaching an adapter, etc.

I’ll see if my wife lets me reboot her car tomorrow - she’s getting cranky about it.

 

[fischersd]

Fuck protesting. People should start blowing them up. (After hours, when no-one's there, of course).

You have to wonder how it is the police commissions can agree to wasting their resources protecting these?! Last I checked you don't have enough officers?!

 

[diamond.g]

Not sure, but my wife’s going to EVGO tomorrow and will try to charge there. Good chance it could be the connector - supposedly this original model can’t even charge 2023 and later Teslas, so it wouldn’t surprise me if J1772 doesn’t work so well with an adapter on them.

I don't see anything that indicates the Gen 1/2 WC's wouldn't work with J1772 compatible vehicles. There isn't anything in them that would prevent it from working (the Gen 3's can toggle to not allow non Teslas). Technically they are not NACS, but I don't seem to have any issues charging my 2024 Model 3 on mine. When it fails does the WC lights indicate anything?

 

[Cmaier]

I don't see anything that indicates the Gen 1/2 WC's wouldn't work with J1772 compatible vehicles. There isn't anything in them that would prevent it from working (the Gen 3's can toggle to not allow non Teslas). Technically they are not NACS, but I don't seem to have any issues charging my 2024 Model 3 on mine. When it fails does the WC lights indicate anything?

Yes. Flashing red.

Gen 2 shouldn’t be an issue. Gen 1 has the known issue.

 

[Eric]

Fuck protesting. People should start blowing them up. (After hours, when no-one's there, of course).

You have to wonder how it is the police commissions can agree to wasting their resources protecting these?! Last I checked you don't have enough officers?!

Agree with the protests/message but not the vandalization, cops are just doing their jobs there.

 

[Cmaier]

Update: I followed @Eric ‘s advice and rebooted (I think, I held the volume button for about 30 or 40 seconds until the car went silent and the instrument panel went from almost black to black. Since the entertainment screen went black immediately, I wasn’t clear on how long to hold it.)

Anyway, then I tried charging again. The red light on the wall connector flashed again - no discernible pattern (6 flashes, then 8, then green, then 3, then green, etc.) But within about a minute the car started charging.

We’ve charged the car successfully now three times. The first time, I was there, and it did the red/green flash dance. The second time my wife did it on her own, and she sent me a video of the normal green pulsing, but it is quite possible that it flashed red at first. And now we have this time.

I’m still going to replace the charger with a Tesla Universal. My Gen 1 is 13 years old, almost, and other than supporting 80A/22kW, the modern wall connectors have advantages. If that doesn’t work, I’ll replace the wall connector with a 14-50 socket and we’ll just use the mobile connectors.

 

[Cmaier]

Agree with the protests/message but not the vandalization, cops are just doing their jobs there.

I enjoy when they project things onto Tesla’s buildings. I think that works well.

 

[Cmaier]

Update to update: so I just watched two official BMW videos, and read an official BMW FAQ, and all three disagree about how you reboot the car, and I’m pretty sure I didn’t actually reboot it.

I asked my wife, and it *did* flash red the time she successfully charged it herself. So it’s quite possible we just didn’t wait long enough last night for the charging to start.

In any event, this ain’t no way to run a charging rodeo, so once I receive the new connector I’ll decide whether or not to have it installed based on how reliably charging works on her car.

 

[Yoused]

The protests at Tesla dealerships are funded by dark money foreign actors.


(emoji needs pot and kettle)

 

[Cmaier]

The protests at Tesla dealerships are funded by dark money foreign actors.


(emoji needs pot and kettle)

Hmm…all of those names seem very Jewish. Do you suppose this is a vast zionist conspiracy? I bet it is.

 

[Yoused]

Hmm…all of those names seem very Jewish. Do you suppose this is a vast zionist conspiracy? I bet it is.

Check your copy of the Protocols. I bet it is in there.

 

[Cmaier]

Check your copy of the Protocols. I bet it is in there.

It didn’t come up at the last meeting. But I left early.

 

[dada_dave]

The protests at Tesla dealerships are funded by dark money foreign actors.


(emoji needs pot and kettle)

Hmm…all of those names seem very Jewish. Do you suppose this is a vast zionist conspiracy? I bet it is.

Not only that, but two have been dead for awhile. Who knew Jews were so persistent beyond the grave?

 

[diamond.g]

Update: I followed @Eric ‘s advice and rebooted (I think, I held the volume button for about 30 or 40 seconds until the car went silent and the instrument panel went from almost black to black. Since the entertainment screen went black immediately, I wasn’t clear on how long to hold it.)

Anyway, then I tried charging again. The red light on the wall connector flashed again - no discernible pattern (6 flashes, then 8, then green, then 3, then green, etc.) But within about a minute the car started charging.

We’ve charged the car successfully now three times. The first time, I was there, and it did the red/green flash dance. The second time my wife did it on her own, and she sent me a video of the normal green pulsing, but it is quite possible that it flashed red at first. And now we have this time.

I’m still going to replace the charger with a Tesla Universal. My Gen 1 is 13 years old, almost, and other than supporting 80A/22kW, the modern wall connectors have advantages. If that doesn’t work, I’ll replace the wall connector with a 14-50 socket and we’ll just use the mobile connectors.

EV Station Lite - Ubiquiti Store

Weatherproof, 11 kW Level 2 electric vehicle charging station with flexible access control designed for scalable deployment.

store.ui.com

I would go with the UI EVSE, but that is probably because I already have a UDMP. It looks like it could support 12kW (50A) charging. It would be more of a no brainer (for me) if the plug was NACS, but a J1772 adapter could work.

 

[diamond.g]

A chargepoint home flex could also work.

https://store.chargepoint.com/product/home-flex-hardwired

EDIT: Car and driver said it is the best. https://www.caranddriver.com/shopping-advice/a39917614/best-home-ev-chargers-tested/
Plus you don't give Tesla any more money even if the latest Universal WC is a good deal.

 

[Cmaier]

A chargepoint home flex could also work.

https://store.chargepoint.com/product/home-flex-hardwired

EDIT: Car and driver said it is the best. https://www.caranddriver.com/shopping-advice/a39917614/best-home-ev-chargers-tested/
Plus you don't give Tesla any more money even if the latest Universal WC is a good deal.

call me a snowflake, but as long as I’m still driving a tesla (probably be September before my new car arrives) I want the little button on the handle that opens my charge door. There’s no other way to open it other than going through a couple screens on the touch screen or using the app. Same with unlocking the charge port. I’d have to climb over the wire to get in the car, etc. A minor annoyance, I guess, but an annoyance just the same.

 

[diamond.g]

call me a snowflake, but as long as I’m still driving a tesla (probably be September before my new car arrives) I want the little button on the handle that opens my charge door. There’s no other way to open it other than going through a couple screens on the touch screen or using the app. Same with unlocking the charge port. I’d have to climb over the wire to get in the car, etc. A minor annoyance, I guess, but an annoyance just the same.

Does tapping the chargeport door not open it on your older S? I think unlocking works with the adapter, but I'm not 100% sure (I haven't had to publicly charge on J1772 in a few years so I don't remember).

I guess you guys can suffer through the handshake errors until you get your iX.

 

[Cmaier]

Does tapping the chargeport door not open it on your older S? I think unlocking works with the adapter, but I'm not 100% sure (I haven't had to publicly charge on J1772 in a few years so I don't remember).

I guess you guys can suffer through the handshake errors until you get your iX.

LOL, no. Tapping the door won’t open it. It also doesn’t have the motor to close the door like the modern S’s.

 

[Eric]

call me a snowflake, but as long as I’m still driving a tesla (probably be September before my new car arrives) I want the little button on the handle that opens my charge door. There’s no other way to open it other than going through a couple screens on the touch screen or using the app. Same with unlocking the charge port. I’d have to climb over the wire to get in the car, etc. A minor annoyance, I guess, but an annoyance just the same.

I figure I have to be there to plug it in anyway so it's no biggie for me to push to open the door. I think I'm regressing when it comes to this stuff, opting for simple manual control for basic functions.