Representative-elect George Santos' completely fabricated past and qualifications

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This, right here, is every Republican. All of them.
 
Cmaier said:
it’s not even clear that the dude is a U.S. citizen.

Wonder who plays him in the movie.
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At this point, I'd wager that he's not! It's sad that there's probably much more that will come out about him and his extreme lies.
 
ronntaylor said:
At this point, I'd wager that he's not! It's sad that there's probably much more that will come out about him and his extreme lies.
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What's sad is that the bar is so high for excluding a Congressional member-elect from being seated. His party and peers would rather just hope (without justification) that Santos will resign ahead of the swearing-in. Small chance of that, since the guy appears to be shameless... and he has equally shameless peers on his side of the aisle who swore the same oath, yet supported Trump's attempt to overturn Biden's 2020 election.

Kevin McCarthy, hoping to become House Speaker, needs the margin of his tiny majority, and couldn't count on a Republican winning a NY03 special election at this point. He may not care for Santos but he's not going to speak out against his being seated. If and when he makes Speaker though, he might decide to have a voice vote on a reprimand of Santos, ya think? A popular way of assuaging voter ire and getting the media to move on. It usually works.

Think about it though. Santos will swear an oath to uphold the Constitution? His entire resumé is a scandalous piece of fabrication, on a scale that none of his peers has yet foisted off on the Republic.
 
Barbara Hurdas said she started training at Dish the same day as Santos in October 2011. She was hired as a Greek language representative, and the two worked together at the now-closed Queens office until Santos left the company, she said.
"He used to tell us he was born in Brazil," she recalled to Patch, "and that he would travel back and forth and that he came from money." [emphasis added]
 
Does the guy have a psychological problem or did he just learn from Trump that you can continuously lie and get away with it? And it doesn't matter how transparent your lies are. So Trump had a larger inauguration crowd than Obama, despite photographic evidence. So the 2020 election was rigged, despite losing dozens of court rulings and every recount. So Trump is a brilliant businessman, despite a string of bankruptcies. Just lie, lie and lie some more and the party of traditional values will accept you with open arms.
 
mac_in_tosh said:
Does the guy have a psychological problem or did he just learn from Trump that you can continuously lie and get away with it? And it doesn't matter how transparent your lies are. So Trump had a larger inauguration crowd than Obama, despite photographic evidence. So the 2020 election was rigged, despite losing dozens of court rulings and every recount. So Trump is a brilliant businessman, despite a string of bankruptcies. Just lie, lie and lie some more and the party of traditional values will accept you with open arms.
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Seems a bit like a Talented Mr. Ripley situation where he just lies as needed to elevate his status. He prefer not to lie, mind you, but you do what you gotta do 🤣
 
NY Times article about options Moscow McCrafty et al can use to address Lyin' George (we know all spit gonna happen to him!!)

www.nytimes.com

What Can the House Do to Address George Santos’s Falsehoods?

The representative-elect’s long list of fabrications has raised questions about whether he will even be allowed to take his seat next week. But House Republicans have shown little appetite for punishing him.
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But House Republican leaders, who have so far remained silentamid the persistent questions about Mr. Santos, are unlikely to punish him in any significant way. Even if they could force him out of Congress, it would prompt a special election in a swing seat, setting up a potential blow to the party’s already precarious majority.
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Cmaier said:
That’s not a nice way to talk about a holocaust survivor and 9/11 first responder who won the Nobel peace prize twice.
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I made a joke about him and 9/11. Turns out he claims his mother was a financial executive who worked in the South Tower of the WTC and survived the 9/11 attacks, but died “a few years later” due to cancer. And of course, he claimed the cancer was a result of being exposed to the ash from the WTC. He claimed they never sought compensation through the 9/11 Fund because his family could afford it and wanted to let that money go to the people who really deserved it.

She actually died in 2016, that’s 15 years after 2001. Public records only show her working at a Queens-based company which went defunct in 1994.

I guess the only good news is that his mom isn’t alive to see what her son has become.

Given his track record and inconsistencies in this story, I think it’s fair to say this is more than likely BS. Truly horrendous behavior from this man.

I just don’t understand how it seems no one knows anything about this guy prior to his decision to run for office. That just seems very odd.
 
Cmaier said:
Paywall removed.

He go jail soon. Bye bye.

www.nytimes.com

Santos, a Suburban House and $11,000 in Campaign Payments for ‘Rent’ (Published 2022)

Representative-elect George Santos, under scrutiny after fabricating much of his résumé, also spent campaign funds on $40,000 worth of air travel.
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Yeah I think you are right. Either that or fall out of some window.

www.semafor.com

George Santos tries to explain his wealth | Semafor

The congressman elect spoke with Semafor about his business dealings and how he funded his campaign.
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Seriously if this guy can lie his way out of investigations by as many entities as are now having a look at his finances, he'd still be making the one mistake he can't afford to make and may already have made, which is to have a high enough profile on enough potentially shady stuff to give him the chance to tell a lie to federal authorities.

www.nydailynews.com

George Santos faces growing legal scrutiny: ‘He needs his lawyer on speed dial’

An unrepentant Rep.-elect George Santos, who remains on track to be sworn in next week, faced growing legal scrutiny in recent days, as his web of known falsehoods expanded to include a misleading …
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Experts said falsified campaign filings could be the likeliest source of charges, and that the level of legal peril facing Santos would hinge on the sweep of his fabrications.

“If these made their way into campaign filings, there may well be enough to prosecute,” said Mark Peters, who once led the state attorney general office’s public integrity unit and later served as commissioner of the city Department of Investigation.

Federal areas of concern could also include a reported $700,000 loaned by Santos to his campaign, said Nathan Reilly, a former chief of the public integrity division in the U.S. attorney’s office in Brooklyn.

“Are there any campaign finance-related issues and campaign disclosure issues, on one hand?” Reilly said. “And then the second issue is: I think there will be questions around what the source of funds were.”
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Well that plus the SEC filings for Santos' once-dissolved and then suddenly reinstated Devolder Holdings. That might even entail an SEC re-look at the Harbor City Capital case mentioned in that Semafor piece:

At LinkBridge, [Santos] said, he worked in the so-called “capital introduction” industry, which typically brings together investors and hedge funds. He eventually left that job for Harbor City Capital, a Florida firm the Securities and Exchange Commission accused in April 2021 of running a $17 million Ponzi scheme. Santos was not charged in the fraud, and he says he departed in March, shortly before the company ran into legal trouble, in order to strike out on his own. He incorporated Devolder in May, a few weeks after the S.E.C. filed suit against Harbor City.

Santos said that Devolder was also in the capital introduction business, including “deal building” and “specialty consulting” for “high net worth individuals.”
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Sounds like Santos took a rolodex with him when he conveniently left Capital City before the hammer dropped on that Ponzi scheme.

Per the NYT piece that @Cmaier had cited, there's also that unusual pattern of over 800 individual $199.99 campaign expenditures, each conveniently "just under" $200 and so adding up to "just under" $160k of expenses for which no receipts would have been required.

Paul S. Ryan, an election law expert, said that the expenditures could be an effort to hide illegal use of campaign funds, given the leeway with reporting receipts below $200. If so, he said, Mr. Santos’s attempt to hide the pattern could put him in further legal trouble, adding: “I consider deployment of this tactic strong evidence that the violation of law was knowing and willful — and therefore meeting the requirement for criminal prosecution.”
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Kevin McCarthy would like all this to go away until he can at least get a firm headcount on his quest to become Speaker of the House next week.

But if Santos is seated, the question becomes whether a 2/3 majority of that newly constituted House would then decide to oust Santos. "Probably not" is my own sad guess based on US history so far.

It's possible McCarthy would strip Santos of any committee assignments if the guy ended up indicted, and ask him to resign if convicted. "Possible" but not probable considering the slim margin the Rs will have.

So maybe in modern times it's not just Trump who can get away with shooting someone on Fifth Avenue, assuming the voters have already elected such a rogue official. After all, in our past, most of the five House reps who were ousted were tossed out for disloyalty to the Union during the Civil War. That has not been the fate of the 140-odd congress critters who formally supported an overturn of the 2020 Biden election.
 
At this point, I wouldn't expect McCarthy or the GOP to do anything against Santos. After all, they for the most part refused to impeach or convict Trump twice, they seem to make excuses for his inciting of an insurrection and they don't seem particularly upset about his stealing of top secret documents. So what's a little lie now and then?
 
Apart from the perceived offence to good taste that the completely excessive GOP response to Mr Obama's decision to don a tan suit provoked, is there anything at all (as in, anything - any action - that a Republican has been responsible for) that the GOP will condemn, distance themsleves from, and/or find fault with? Anything?

Any sense of shame? Any sense of decency, dignity, ethics? Any sense of responsibility for upholding the democratic traditions and institutions of the country?
 

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